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noni May 18th 2009 8:32 pm

Re: TV publicity for Brits buying property in Cyprus
 

Originally Posted by noni (Post 7583797)
Remy - didn't one of our BE friends get his money back in Goa, and say he was off to buy in North Cyprus? :confused:

Have emailed [email protected]
and asked them to read Buyer Beware. Please all email them and perhaps our stories may be brought to the publics attention.

Just another avenue to explore.

Return of Santan May 19th 2009 4:35 am

Re: TV publicity for Brits buying property in Cyprus
 

Originally Posted by noni (Post 7584586)
Have emailed [email protected]
and asked them to read Buyer Beware. Please all email them and perhaps our stories may be brought to the publics attention.

Just another avenue to explore.


If you "copy & paste" the "Buyer Beware" thread this will take them as a link direct to the start of the posts :thumbsup:

( I'm sure the Techies/Geeks will explain if you are not sure:confused:)

K-C

noni May 19th 2009 4:41 am

Re: TV publicity for Brits buying property in Cyprus
 

Originally Posted by Kan-conned (Post 7585833)
If you "copy & paste" the "Buyer Beware" thread this will take them as a link direct to the start of the posts :thumbsup:

( I'm sure the Techies/Geeks will explain if you are not sure:confused:)

K-C

You know I am non techno but opened a new thread so people could see it.
:wub:

k800mer May 19th 2009 8:47 am

Re: In To-day's Newspapers
 

Originally Posted by babu1 (Post 7584527)
I imagine a fair percentage are natural causes including accidental drowning and traffic accident.

That still leaves a substantial amount with unidentified cause, most of which are written off as "natural", or "accidental" and case closed, saves police time, and no proper investigative procedure here, or forensics.

I could be wrong but I thought that any British subject that died abroad where the body was repatriated had a postmortem carried out in the UK.

noni May 19th 2009 9:36 am

Re: In To-day's Newspapers
 

Originally Posted by k800mer (Post 7586396)
I could be wrong but I thought that any British subject that died abroad where the body was repatriated had a postmortem carried out in the UK.

I thought so too - Princess Diana!

hemingway May 19th 2009 5:53 pm

Re: In To-day's Newspapers
 

Originally Posted by k800mer (Post 7586396)
I could be wrong but I thought that any British subject that died abroad where the body was repatriated had a postmortem carried out in the UK.

It maybe so, but a thorough & accurate post mortem will rely on all the internal bits being present & correct - in the case of Scarlett Keeling, internal organs were missing & I'm not certain if they have been or ever will be returned - this could be the same situation in other cases as well.

Regards

Hemingway

Goacrazy56 May 19th 2009 7:22 pm

Re: How to win Friends and influence people
 
Destroying Friendship UK/Goa
http://oheraldo.in/pagedetails.asp?nid=21982&cid=13
They certainly have a knack of upsetting and biting the hand that feeds them another disgruntled Brit
:thumbdown::thumbdown::thumbdown:

erinsgirl May 20th 2009 4:55 am

Re: In To-day's Newspapers
 
In refence to Goacrazy's comments I think it is really a question of Goans being small minded people who lack a mature and adult perspective on the world at large. As far as they are concerend it is quite in order for them to seek their fortunes across the globe whether that is in the US, Canada, the Uk or the Gulf. They believe it is somehow their entitlement to go to other people countries and benefit from job, education and housing opportunities available there. This presumably comes as part of the mindset they so clearly display that they are due these opportunities as a right because having been invaded and ruled by Portuguese foreigners for centuries there is a sentiment that it is now their turn to go overseas and get what they can from whereever they can and to profit from whatever is available.

On one level I don't blame them for doing this. This is what poor, disadvantaged people are forced to do. I cite as an example my own country Ireland, where for generations young people were forced to emigrate in order to find job and pursue their dreams.

This was due to a lack of work and prosperity at home. However the main difference I can see between Ireland and Goa is that at no stage to my knowledge has Ireland or the Irish people ever expressed the hostile and racist attitudes towards foreigners who came to settle in Ireland in the way that is commonplace here today in Goa. In my county of Carlow there were many Germans who came to farm in the 1960's and 1970's who bought the farms left by those Irish who had emigrated and who brought with them significant financial investments which benefitted the local economy in much the same way as the local Goan economy benefits from the British who settle here for retirement.

The fact that the Goans cannot seem to recognise this paradox just amazes me. In fact there are days when it horrifies me to such an extent that I wonder how can it be that they are unable treat foreign settlers in the same courteous and civilised manner that they surely expect to find in the countries they emigrate to. Are they so stupid, shortisghed, selfish or plain ignorant?

Their attitude demonstrates a significant shortfall in sensitivity on the part of Goan society. It seems to have not yet penetrated their consciousness what a supreme irony this is. That they are unwilling, even hostile about reciprocating towards citizens of those countires where they seek to fulfil their ambitions.

As for their frequenntly voiced concerns about losing their culture, well I would suggest that the Goans who have emigrated have probably retained their cultural heritage and cultivate it. I am sure that Swindon, UK is testimony to this fact. Culture is a living thing which evolves and changes according to circumstances. If Goan culture is not alive within the geographical territory of Goa this should not be blamed on the foreigners who have settled here. It points more to a lack of clarity within the local population who have been left behind in Goa and who need to cherish and actively agree on ways to protect their culture whilst still moving it into the 21st century and adapting it to the new circumstances they find themselves living in. There is such a wealth and diversity within their culture and it is sad that they seem to put more energy into defending it rather than "growing "it.

My final comment is this: If the ex pat Goans living abroad are so concerned about their homeland then instead of writing critial and negative letters to the press about foreigners ( which they do regularly ) I suggest they should consider returning home and putting their energy and money into boosting not only the Goan culture but the economy too.

Daff May 20th 2009 5:45 am

Re: In To-day's Newspapers
 

Originally Posted by erinsgirl (Post 7589469)
In refence to Goacrazy's comments I think it is really a question of Goans being small minded people who lack a mature and adult perspective on the world at large. As far as they are concerend it is quite in order for them to seek their fortunes across the globe whether that is in the US, Canada, the Uk or the Gulf. They believe it is somehow their entitlement to go to other people countries and benefit from job, education and housing opportunities available there. This presumably comes as part of the mindset they so clearly display that they are due these opportunities as a right because having been invaded and ruled by Portuguese foreigners for centuries there is a sentiment that it is now their turn to go overseas and get what they can from whereever they can and to profit from whatever is available.

On one level I don't blame them for doing this. This is what poor, disadvantaged people are forced to do. I cite as an example my own country Ireland, where for generations young people were forced to emigrate in order to find job and pursue their dreams.

This was due to a lack of work and prosperity at home. However the main difference I can see between Ireland and Goa is that at no stage to my knowledge has Ireland or the Irish people ever expressed the hostile and racist attitudes towards foreigners who came to settle in Ireland in the way that is commonplace here today in Goa. In my county of Carlow there were many Germans who came to farm in the 1960's and 1970's who bought the farms left by those Irish who had emigrated and who brought with them significant financial investments which benefitted the local economy in much the same way as the local Goan economy benefits from the British who settle here for retirement.

The fact that the Goans cannot seem to recognise this paradox just amazes me. In fact there are days when it horrifies me to such an extent that I wonder how can it be that they are unable treat foreign settlers in the same courteous and civilised manner that they surely expect to find in the countries they emigrate to. Are they so stupid, shortisghed, selfish or plain ignorant?

Their attitude demonstrates a significant shortfall in sensitivity on the part of Goan society. It seems to have not yet penetrated their consciousness what a supreme irony this is. That they are unwilling, even hostile about reciprocating towards citizens of those countires where they seek to fulfil their ambitions.

As for their frequenntly voiced concerns about losing their culture, well I would suggest that the Goans who have emigrated have probably retained their cultural heritage and cultivate it. I am sure that Swindon, UK is testimony to this fact. Culture is a living thing which evolves and changes according to circumstances. If Goan culture is not alive within the geographical territory of Goa this should not be blamed on the foreigners who have settled here. It points more to a lack of clarity within the local population who have been left behind in Goa and who need to cherish and actively agree on ways to protect their culture whilst still moving it into the 21st century and adapting it to the new circumstances they find themselves living in. There is such a wealth and diversity within their culture and it is sad that they seem to put more energy into defending it rather than "growing "it.

My final comment is this: If the ex pat Goans living abroad are so concerned about their homeland then instead of writing critial and negative letters to the press about foreigners ( which they do regularly ) I suggest they should consider returning home and putting their energy and money into boosting not only the Goan culture but the economy too.

Our compliments to you Erinsgirl :thumbsup:. 10/10 for a perfectly written post - clear and to the point without a jot of rudeness. We hope our current troll reads and admires it too :thumbsup:

hemingway May 20th 2009 6:24 am

Re: In To-day's Newspapers
 

Originally Posted by Daff (Post 7589592)
Our compliments to you Erinsgirl :thumbsup:. 10/10 for a perfectly written post - clear and to the point without a jot of rudeness. We hope our current troll reads and admires it too :thumbsup:

Yes, I heartily agree - a 1st class & well written post! I believe in reciprocal arrangements - (this has been said before but I'm in one of those moods, so I'm saying it again - because I can!) the UK has allowed/allows Goans/Indians (plus myriad other nationalities as well) to settle & amongst many other things (including claiming benefits :curse:) buy property in the UK. If a country allows Brits similar priviliges/rights, then fine, everyone is happy & it all continues nicely - however, if a country does NOT allow Brits certain priviliges/rights - then Britain must NOT give citizens of that country priviliges/rights in the UK - simple as that, no ifs, no buts, no maybes!

I'll sit back & wait for the flack now. . . . . . . . . . . . . .

Regards

Hemingway

noni May 20th 2009 6:46 am

Re: In To-day's Newspapers
 
Erinsgirl - excellent post articulate and refreshing.:wub:

noni May 20th 2009 6:48 am

Re: In To-day's Newspapers
 

Originally Posted by hemingway (Post 7589685)
Yes, I heartily agree - a 1st class & well written post! I believe in reciprocal arrangements - (this has been said before but I'm in one of those moods, so I'm saying it again - because I can!) the UK has allowed/allows Goans/Indians (plus myriad other nationalities as well) to settle & amongst many other things (including claiming benefits :curse:) buy property in the UK. If a country allows Brits similar priviliges/rights, then fine, everyone is happy & it all continues nicely - however, if a country does NOT allow Brits certain priviliges/rights - then Britain must NOT give citizens of that country priviliges/rights in the UK - simple as that, no ifs, no buts, no maybes!

I'll sit back & wait for the flack now. . . . . . . . . . . . . .

Regards

Hemingway

Quite right Hemingway, totally agree with you. I also agree with the people who are on strike to-day,as theirr firms are giving employment to foreigners and not locals.

hemingway May 20th 2009 7:32 am

Re: In To-day's Newspapers
 

Originally Posted by noni (Post 7589748)
Quite right Hemingway, totally agree with you. I also agree with the people who are on strike to-day,as theirr firms are giving employment to foreigners and not locals.

Where was it, Milford Haven & Lindsey Oil Refinery in Lincolnshire - I agree with their stance, it's a shame when it's got to come to that - they lose earnings because the jobs are being given to foreign workers, so they've less to lose by going on strike.

Let's face it, the UK is as good as on it's knees - two of the biggest banking groups are almost nationalised - people have lost their life savings due to the plummeting value of banking shares, no one can sell a house without losing a fortune, no one can get a mortgage at a fair interest rate to buy a house unless they have got 40% deposit, they can't give new cars away, people living on interest from savings/investments aren't getting any interest, those earning lose 40% of their earnings in tax & national insurance (don't make me laugh) - then they spend the majority of what's left on paying mortgage interest & guess what, more tax - car tax, tax on petrol, tax to live in your house, tax on booze, tax on ciggies, value added tax, insurance premium tax - that's before you start on gas, electric, telephone, buildings & contents insurance - no need to worry about holidays, because no one has got any money left to pay for them, especially to the Eurozone - because the pound is worth sod all! - RIP OFF BRITAIN - that's what it is!

Then we've had all this 'MP's expenses' rammed down our throats on TV for two weeks now - it really makes my blood boil, I can feel my blood pressure going up as I type!

Okay rant over, sorry for being a doom & gloom merchant! Green shoots of recovery, my arse!

As Douglas said: It'll get worse before it gets worse!

Not a happy poster!

Hemingway.

noni May 20th 2009 7:39 am

Re: In To-day's Newspapers
 

Originally Posted by hemingway (Post 7589861)
Where was it, Milford Haven & Lindsey Oil Refinery in Lincolnshire - I agree with their stance, it's a shame when it's got to come to that - they lose earnings because the jobs are being given to foreign workers, so they've less to lose by going on strike.

Let's face it, the UK is as good as on it's knees - two of the biggest banking groups are almost nationalised - people have lost their life savings due to the plummeting value of banking shares, no one can sell a house without losing a fortune, no one can get a mortgage at a fair interest rate to buy a house unless they have got 40% deposit, they can't give new cars away, people living on interest from savings/investments aren't getting any interest, those earning lose 40% of their earnings in tax & national insurance (don't make me laugh) - then they spend the majority of what's left on paying mortgage interest & guess what, more tax - car tax, tax on petrol, tax to live in your house, tax on booze, tax on ciggies, value added tax, insurance premium tax - that's before you start on gas, electric, telephone, buildings & contents insurance - no need to worry about holidays, because no one has got any money left to pay for them, especially to the Eurozone - because the pound is worth sod all! - RIP OFF BRITAIN - that's what it is!

Then we've had all this 'MP's expenses' rammed down our throats on TV for two weeks now - it really makes my blood boil, I can feel my blood pressure going up as I type!

Okay rant over, sorry for being a doom & gloom merchant! Green shoots of recovery, my arse!

As Douglas said: It'll get worse before it gets worse!

Not a happy poster!

Hemingway.

Well Douglas did warn us - pity he did not warn our Government.:rolleyes:
Cheer up and have a :beer::beer::beer::drinkwine:

Goacrazy56 May 20th 2009 7:53 am

Re: In To-day's Newspapers
 

Originally Posted by erinsgirl (Post 7589469)
In refence to Goacrazy's comments I think it is really a question of Goans being small minded people who lack a mature and adult perspective on the world at large. As far as they are concerend it is quite in order for them to seek their fortunes across the globe whether that is in the US, Canada, the Uk or the Gulf. They believe it is somehow their entitlement to go to other people countries and benefit from job, education and housing opportunities available there. This presumably comes as part of the mindset they so clearly display that they are due these opportunities as a right because having been invaded and ruled by Portuguese foreigners for centuries there is a sentiment that it is now their turn to go overseas and get what they can from whereever they can and to profit from whatever is available.

On one level I don't blame them for doing this. This is what poor, disadvantaged people are forced to do. I cite as an example my own country Ireland, where for generations young people were forced to emigrate in order to find job and pursue their dreams.

This was due to a lack of work and prosperity at home. However the main difference I can see between Ireland and Goa is that at no stage to my knowledge has Ireland or the Irish people ever expressed the hostile and racist attitudes towards foreigners who came to settle in Ireland in the way that is commonplace here today in Goa. In my county of Carlow there were many Germans who came to farm in the 1960's and 1970's who bought the farms left by those Irish who had emigrated and who brought with them significant financial investments which benefitted the local economy in much the same way as the local Goan economy benefits from the British who settle here for retirement.

The fact that the Goans cannot seem to recognise this paradox just amazes me. In fact there are days when it horrifies me to such an extent that I wonder how can it be that they are unable treat foreign settlers in the same courteous and civilised manner that they surely expect to find in the countries they emigrate to. Are they so stupid, shortisghed, selfish or plain ignorant?

Their attitude demonstrates a significant shortfall in sensitivity on the part of Goan society. It seems to have not yet penetrated their consciousness what a supreme irony this is. That they are unwilling, even hostile about reciprocating towards citizens of those countires where they seek to fulfil their ambitions.

As for their frequenntly voiced concerns about losing their culture, well I would suggest that the Goans who have emigrated have probably retained their cultural heritage and cultivate it. I am sure that Swindon, UK is testimony to this fact. Culture is a living thing which evolves and changes according to circumstances. If Goan culture is not alive within the geographical territory of Goa this should not be blamed on the foreigners who have settled here. It points more to a lack of clarity within the local population who have been left behind in Goa and who need to cherish and actively agree on ways to protect their culture whilst still moving it into the 21st century and adapting it to the new circumstances they find themselves living in. There is such a wealth and diversity within their culture and it is sad that they seem to put more energy into defending it rather than "growing "it.

My final comment is this: If the ex pat Goans living abroad are so concerned about their homeland then instead of writing critial and negative letters to the press about foreigners ( which they do regularly ) I suggest they should consider returning home and putting their energy and money into boosting not only the Goan culture but the economy too.

Thank you erinsgirl
A refreshing 1st class bit of literature,written without any rude remarks,just fact and truth
hats off to you:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:


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