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Re: In To-day's Newspapers
Originally Posted by noni
(Post 10797551)
I find a lot of things you come out with amazing! Sometimes tunnel vision
we will have to agree to differ. I have met many Pakistani doctors etc. You seem to have the "Indian" way of thinking of Pakistanis. The attitudes are the same in both Asian countries. :amen: Just listening to BBC news regarding the wonderful speech by Milala, they spoke of the worrying countries regarding lack of education for women, Pakistan, Nigeria, Ethiopia!!!! Noni you are an expat in Goa do you not see the bands of little girls going to school??? 81% female literacy in Goa!!!! I really do give up. :( |
Re: In To-day's Newspapers
Originally Posted by Bipat
(Post 10797573)
12% literacy for women, doesn't that mean anything??
Just listening to BBC news regarding the wonderful speech by Milala, they spoke of the worrying countries regarding lack of education for women, Pakistan, Nigeria, Ethiopia!!!! Noni you are an expat in Goa do you not see the bands of little girls going to school??? 81% female literacy in Goa!!!! I really do give up. :( |
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What is the yardstick for literacy in India?
I'm told it is the ability to write one's own name. Not my idea of literacy. Davie. |
Re: In To-day's Newspapers
Originally Posted by davidhendry
(Post 10797812)
What is the yardstick for literacy in India?
I'm told it is the ability to write one's own name. Not my idea of literacy. Davie. I will give the same answer. "Literacy for the purpose of the 2011 census". "A person in age limit of seven and above who can both write and read with understanding in any of the languages." http://www.mapsofindia.com/census201...racy-rate.html |
Re: In To-day's Newspapers
Originally Posted by davidhendry
(Post 10797812)
What is the yardstick for literacy in India?
I'm told it is the ability to write one's own name. Not my idea of literacy. Davie. |
Re: In To-day's Newspapers
Originally Posted by Bipat
(Post 10797898)
You asked the same question when the subject was discussed before.
I will give the same answer. "Literacy for the purpose of the 2011 census". "A person in age limit of seven and above who can both write and read with understanding in any of the languages." http://www.mapsofindia.com/census201...racy-rate.html Do you really believe the census figures, or are they just convenient and suit your, apparent, view of Shining India, Incredible India. I hardly think being married to an Indian and spending your annual holidays here, qualifies you to know the ground reality. Remember the adage........lies, damned lies and statistics. Davie. |
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Re: In To-day's Newspapers
Originally Posted by davidhendry
(Post 10797954)
Most humble apologies for asking a stupid question. Twice!!! I won't sleep tonight.
Do you really believe the census figures, or are they just convenient and suit your, apparent, view of Shining India, Incredible India. I hardly think being married to an Indian and spending your annual holidays here, qualifies you to know the ground reality. Remember the adage........lies, damned lies and statistics. Davie. Not just married to OH, but am part of a large extended family and lived with parents in law when children were small. OH was born there, came first to UK when 30 yrs. his grandparents were still alive then. For 4 decades we have lived at times with family members in Karwar, Chennai, Delhi and Mumbai. Shared their celebrations and tragedies. We visit now only twice a year because of increasing age and commitments to grandchildren. It may surprise you to know that we all speak to each other, and when in UK have constant phone and email communication including with neighbours to our house, so I must have learnt something!!! |
Re: In To-day's Newspapers
Originally Posted by Bipat
(Post 10797125)
Yes it exists, not sure a law amendment will help, the people with such attitudes often hide it, just as racial discrimination is often far from obvious.
Just for interest why do you single out Gujaratis? Gujarat one state OH and self have never visited (although several postponed plans), also no Gujarati friends, though frequently shop in Belgrave area of Leicester. (One of the children lives in Leicester). |
Re: In To-day's Newspapers
Originally Posted by prestonjohn
(Post 10798043)
Observations based upon reading Mumbai newspapers relating to discriminatory practices by Gujarati landlords in the city excluding non gujaratis from applying for housing using the excuse their strict dietary laws prevented them from accepting " outsiders" in their colonies. Talking with the waiters in The Plantain Leaf, where i used to eat daily. They hated it when, what they called Gujarat Week, the place used to fill with holiday makers from the state and they treated them as if they were servants by throwing food on the floor, complaining about the prices and the quality of the food being served.They also said to a man they never tip. Modis children.......Personally and i have been through Gujarat many times, its dry-no booze.....Its not as modernised as Mr. Modi likes to point out and generally i find them arrogant and dismissive Bipat. Modi has a very efficient propaganda machine at his disposal and i hope he never gets the chance at the premiership of India, it would be disastrous and ruinous and divisive.
Those in Leicester seem OK (my grandson loves his Gujarati teacher.) Must say I know of housing complexes in Mumbai (not Gujarati) where only vegetarians are admitted. On the other side vegetarian rels. in Chennai appreciated their Muslim neighbours because they gave meat to rels. cat. |
Re: In To-day's Newspapers
Originally Posted by Bipat
(Post 10798061)
Thanks for the answer PJ, we have never stayed in Gujarat. OH favours Modi (I keep quiet).
Those in Leicester seem OK (my grandson loves his Gujarati teacher.) Must say I know of housing complexes in Mumbai (not Gujarati) where only vegetarians are admitted. On the other side vegetarian rels. in Chennai appreciated their Muslim neighbours because they gave meat to rels. cat. . |
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Originally Posted by johnny five
(Post 10798067)
They were probably fattening it up for Id :p
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Originally Posted by Bipat
(Post 10798073)
No, it died (some years ago), presume cremated at the vets, very puny and unhealthy animal not worth eating.
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Originally Posted by Bipat
(Post 10797987)
I didn't write the census report. Do you know that it is not accurate?
Not just married to OH, but am part of a large extended family and lived with parents in law when children were small. OH was born there, came first to UK when 30 yrs. his grandparents were still alive then. For 4 decades we have lived at times with family members in Karwar, Chennai, Delhi and Mumbai. Shared their celebrations and tragedies. We visit now only twice a year because of increasing age and commitments to grandchildren. It may surprise you to know that we all speak to each other, and when in UK have constant phone and email communication including with neighbours to our house, so I must have learnt something!!! |
Re: In To-day's Newspapers
Originally Posted by k800mer
(Post 10798091)
I am sure that you are much better informed than I am Bipat but I can only go by what I see, all the Goan children go off to school in their uniforms but there is still a lot of children around in the streets and on the beaches who obviously do not go to school and as Goa is one of the more prosperous areas in India there must be, taking India overall, a huge number of children whom must either not receive an education or receive very little education. Any family of two or more if they can only afford to send one child to school probably would send a male child rather than a female child and in some ways this is understandable where there is none or very little state assistance for the elderly and females effectively become the property of the family that they marry into but a male will grow up and help to support elderly relatives. It may be understandable but it is neither right or fair and it perpetuates the demeaning of females.
It is difficult to judge from individual surroundings, for instance in Karwar a semi rural town/city, now quite poor, no children are seen on the streets, but it happens to be famous for its education standards. Elsewhere in India situation must be different in each area. (This subject started from view that at least India is infinitely better for girls than Pakistan!). |
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