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stevebenaulim Sep 14th 2011 6:54 am

Re: In To-day's Newspapers
 

Originally Posted by noni (Post 9620402)
A lady after my own heart!

Migrants are having big families to claim benefits, says Asian baroness
‘Nobody likes to accept that, nobody likes to talk about it because it is supposed to be very politically incorrect’



Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz1XvVUeopH

Known this for years.

noni Sep 14th 2011 7:58 am

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Originally Posted by fatbrit (Post 9621204)
I've already shown you that the author is false and the reason why they falsified it.

It's your turn!

Never mind the author, the contents!!!

I would say the contents are correct - which do you disagree with?

fatbrit Sep 14th 2011 8:34 am

Re: In To-day's Newspapers
 

Originally Posted by noni (Post 9621441)
Never mind the author, the contents!!!

I would say the contents are correct - which do you disagree with?

All of it!

I'm at the mudding stage of remodelling the bathroom at the moment so you ain't getting my full attention. But while I'm waiting for the first coat to dry, you'll get a sloppy criticism, which is much more than you deserve.

The first para is his rose-tinted history. There's nothing to do there apart from note its similarity to a famous Monty Python sketch.

The second para is his opinion so we'll start there. The piece was written by an American, and so we must approach it from an American point of view. He writes:

"I'm tired of being told that I have to "spread the wealth" to people who don't have my work ethic. I'm tired of being told the government will take the money I earned, by force if necessary, and give it to people too lazy to earn it."

The gist is a rant against the redistribution of wealth cemented with the notion of the undeserving poor. We simply need to ask the question of whether it is valid. My opinion is that it is not.

I could go through piles of valid data demonstrating that such wealth inequality has not existed in the US since the time of the Great Depression, and that we Americans are edging towards an oligarchy with the best government money can buy.

Instead, I'll borrow this from Senator Sanders @ the Huff.

"Moreover, according to the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development, the United States has both the highest overall poverty rate and the highest childhood poverty rate of any major industrialized country on earth. This comes at a time when the U.S. also has the most unequal distribution of wealth and income of any major country on earth with the top 1 percent earning more than the bottom 50 percent.

According to the latest figures from the OECD, 21.6 percent of American children live in poverty. This compares to 3.7 percent in Denmark, 5 percent in Finland, 5.5 percent in Norway 6.9 percent in Slovenia, 7 percent in Sweden, 7.2 percent Hungary, 8.3 percent in Germany, 8.8 percent in the Czech Republic, 9.3 percent in France, 9.4 percent in Switzerland. I suppose we can take some comfort in that our numbers are not quite as bad as Turkey (23.5 percent), Chile (24 percent) and Mexico (25.8 percent)."
Source -- http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rep-be....html?ir=Yahoo

Tina1 Sep 14th 2011 8:43 am

Re: In To-day's Newspapers
 

Originally Posted by fatbrit (Post 9621512)
All of it!

I'm at the mudding stage of remodelling the bathroom at the moment so you ain't getting my full attention. But while I'm waiting for the first coat to dry, you'll get a sloppy criticism, which is much more than you deserve.

The first para is his rose-tinted history. There's nothing to do there apart from note it's similarity to a famous Monty Python sketch.

The second para is his opinion so we'll start there. The piece was written by an American, and so we must approach it from an American point of view. He writes:

"I'm tired of being told that I have to "spread the wealth" to people who don't have my work ethic. I'm tired of being told the government will take the money I earned, by force if necessary, and give it to people too lazy to earn it."

The gist is a rant against the redistribution of wealth cemented with the notion of the undeserving poor. We simply need to ask the question of whether it is valid. My opinion is that it is not.

I could go through piles of valid data demonstrating that such wealth inequality has not existed in the US since the time of the Great Depression, and that we Americans are edging towards an oligarchy with the best government money can buy.

Instead, I'll borrow this from Senator Sanders @ the Huff.

"Moreover, according to the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development, the United States has both the highest overall poverty rate and the highest childhood poverty rate of any major industrialized country on earth. This comes at a time when the U.S. also has the most unequal distribution of wealth and income of any major country on earth with the top 1 percent earning more than the bottom 50 percent.

According to the latest figures from the OECD, 21.6 percent of American children live in poverty. This compares to 3.7 percent in Denmark, 5 percent in Finland, 5.5 percent in Norway 6.9 percent in Slovenia, 7 percent in Sweden, 7.2 percent Hungary, 8.3 percent in Germany, 8.8 percent in the Czech Republic, 9.3 percent in France, 9.4 percent in Switzerland. I suppose we can take some comfort in that our numbers are not quite as bad as Turkey (23.5 percent), Chile (24 percent) and Mexico (25.8 percent)."
Source -- http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rep-be....html?ir=Yahoo

It's nice to be nice! :zzz::zzz:

fatbrit Sep 14th 2011 8:46 am

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Originally Posted by Tina1 (Post 9621532)
It's nice to be nice! :zzz::zzz:

One always aims to please.

Tina1 Sep 14th 2011 8:49 am

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Originally Posted by fatbrit (Post 9621539)
One always aims to please.

One has failed!

fatbrit Sep 14th 2011 8:52 am

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Originally Posted by Tina1 (Post 9621547)
One has failed!

Silk purse, sow's ear if you want to play the school yard ad hominem game.

noni Sep 14th 2011 8:57 am

Re: In To-day's Newspapers
 

Originally Posted by fatbrit (Post 9621512)
All of it!

I'm at the mudding stage of remodelling the bathroom at the moment so you ain't getting my full attention. But while I'm waiting for the first coat to dry, you'll get a sloppy criticism, which is much more than you deserve.

The first para is his rose-tinted history. There's nothing to do there apart from note its similarity to a famous Monty Python sketch.

The second para is his opinion so we'll start there. The piece was written by an American, and so we must approach it from an American point of view. He writes:

"I'm tired of being told that I have to "spread the wealth" to people who don't have my work ethic. I'm tired of being told the government will take the money I earned, by force if necessary, and give it to people too lazy to earn it."

The gist is a rant against the redistribution of wealth cemented with the notion of the undeserving poor. We simply need to ask the question of whether it is valid. My opinion is that it is not.

I could go through piles of valid data demonstrating that such wealth inequality has not existed in the US since the time of the Great Depression, and that we Americans are edging towards an oligarchy with the best government money can buy.

Instead, I'll borrow this from Senator Sanders @ the Huff.

"Moreover, according to the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development, the United States has both the highest overall poverty rate and the highest childhood poverty rate of any major industrialized country on earth. This comes at a time when the U.S. also has the most unequal distribution of wealth and income of any major country on earth with the top 1 percent earning more than the bottom 50 percent.

According to the latest figures from the OECD, 21.6 percent of American children live in poverty. This compares to 3.7 percent in Denmark, 5 percent in Finland, 5.5 percent in Norway 6.9 percent in Slovenia, 7 percent in Sweden, 7.2 percent Hungary, 8.3 percent in Germany, 8.8 percent in the Czech Republic, 9.3 percent in France, 9.4 percent in Switzerland. I suppose we can take some comfort in that our numbers are not quite as bad as Turkey (23.5 percent), Chile (24 percent) and Mexico (25.8 percent)."
Source -- http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rep-be....html?ir=Yahoo

"I'm tired of being told that drug addicts have a disease, and I must help
support and treat them, and pay for the damage they do. Did a giant germ
rush out of a dark alley, grab them, and stuff white powder up their noses
or stick a needle in their arm while they tried to fight it off?

I'm tired of hearing wealthy athletes, entertainers and politicians of all
parties talking about innocent mistakes, stupid mistakes or youthful
mistakes, when we all know they think their only mistake was getting caught.
I'm tired of people with a sense of entitlement, rich or poor.

I'm really tired of people who don't take responsibility for their lives and
actions. I'm tired of hearing them blame the government, or discrimination
or big-whatever for their problems.

I'm also tired and fed up with seeing young men and women in their teens and early 20's bedeck themselves in tattoos and face studs, thereby making themselves un-employable and claiming money from the Government."

If you think there is no truth in the above you must be a "social dogooder"
(meant in the best possible taste):sneaky:

noni Sep 14th 2011 9:07 am

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I'm tired of being told that Islam is a "Religion of Peace," when every day
I can read dozens of stories of Muslim men killing their sisters, wives and daughters for their family "honour"; of Muslims rioting over some slight offense; of Muslims murdering Christian and Jews because they aren't "believers"; of Muslims burning schools for girls; of Muslims stoning teenage rape victims to death for "adultery"; of Muslims mutilating the genitals of little girls; all in the name of Allah, because the Qur'an and Sharia law tells them to.
I'm tired of being told that out of "tolerance for other cultures" we must
let Saudi Arabia and other Arab countries use our oil money to fund mosques
and mandrassa Islamic schools to preach hate in Australia, New Zealand, UK,
America and Canada, while no one from these countries are allowed to fund a
church, synagogue or religious school in Saudi Arabia or any other Arab
country to teach love and tolerance..


How could I have missed this bit. All this is elementary my dear Fatbrit.

Enjoy sorting out your bathroom - we are getting ready to sort out the house before returning to Goa - although we have a good few weeks to go.
Christmas pressies to pack for the grandchildren, visa's to fill in etc etc. half term visiting the grandchildren and friends.

noni Sep 14th 2011 9:11 am

Re: In To-day's Newspapers
 

Originally Posted by fatbrit (Post 9621512)
All of it!

I'm at the mudding stage of remodelling the bathroom at the moment so you ain't getting my full attention. But while I'm waiting for the first coat to dry, you'll get a sloppy criticism, which is much more than you deserve.

The first para is his rose-tinted history. There's nothing to do there apart from note its similarity to a famous Monty Python sketch.

The second para is his opinion so we'll start there. The piece was written by an American, and so we must approach it from an American point of view. He writes:

"I'm tired of being told that I have to "spread the wealth" to people who don't have my work ethic. I'm tired of being told the government will take the money I earned, by force if necessary, and give it to people too lazy to earn it."

The gist is a rant against the redistribution of wealth cemented with the notion of the undeserving poor. We simply need to ask the question of whether it is valid. My opinion is that it is not.

I could go through piles of valid data demonstrating that such wealth inequality has not existed in the US since the time of the Great Depression, and that we Americans are edging towards an oligarchy with the best government money can buy.

Instead, I'll borrow this from Senator Sanders @ the Huff.

"Moreover, according to the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development, the United States has both the highest overall poverty rate and the highest childhood poverty rate of any major industrialized country on earth. This comes at a time when the U.S. also has the most unequal distribution of wealth and income of any major country on earth with the top 1 percent earning more than the bottom 50 percent.

According to the latest figures from the OECD, 21.6 percent of American children live in poverty. This compares to 3.7 percent in Denmark, 5 percent in Finland, 5.5 percent in Norway 6.9 percent in Slovenia, 7 percent in Sweden, 7.2 percent Hungary, 8.3 percent in Germany, 8.8 percent in the Czech Republic, 9.3 percent in France, 9.4 percent in Switzerland. I suppose we can take some comfort in that our numbers are not quite as bad as Turkey (23.5 percent), Chile (24 percent) and Mexico (25.8 percent)."
Source -- http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rep-be....html?ir=Yahoo



With due respect, in all fairness who cares a flying .... of statistics of other countries, we were discussing UK.

noni Sep 14th 2011 9:18 am

Re: In To-day's Newspapers
 
Instead, I'll borrow this from Senator Sanders @ the Huff.

". I suppose we can take some comfort in that our numbers are not quite as bad as Turkey (23.5 percent), Chile (24 percent) and Mexico (25.8 percent)."
Source -- http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rep-be....html?ir=Yahoo

Moreover, according to the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development, the United States has both the highest overall poverty rate and the highest childhood poverty rate of any major industrialized country on earth. This comes at a time when the U.S. also has the most unequal distribution of wealth and income of any major country on earth with the top 1 percent earning more than the bottom 50 percent.

According to the latest figures from the OECD, 21.6 percent of American children live in poverty. This compares to 3.7 percent in Denmark, 5 percent in Finland, 5.5 percent in Norway 6.9 percent in Slovenia, 7 percent in Sweden, 7.2 percent Hungary, 8.3 percent in Germany, 8.8 percent in the Czech Republic, 9.3 percent in France, 9.4 percent in Switzerland
Do you mean Senator Sanders@theHOFF

SORRY can't get the computer to sort out the colours.

fatbrit Sep 14th 2011 9:45 am

Re: In To-day's Newspapers
 

Originally Posted by noni (Post 9621590)
With due respect, in all fairness who cares a flying .... of statistics of other countries, we were discussing UK.

The article was written by an American. About America. How could I possibly criticise it wrt the UK? That would be rather unfair to the author, wouldn't it?

fatbrit Sep 14th 2011 9:48 am

Re: In To-day's Newspapers
 

Originally Posted by noni (Post 9621601)
Do you mean Senator Sanders@theHOFF

No, I mean an article by Senator Sanders in the Huffington Post.

You might try it sometimes when you've, of course, checked out the celebs beach ware and fashion sense in the DM. There's a new UK edition:
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/

johnny five Sep 14th 2011 10:33 am

Re: In To-day's Newspapers
 

Originally Posted by fatbrit (Post 9621512)
All of it!


I could go through piles of valid data demonstrating that such wealth inequality has not existed in the US since the time of the Great Depression, and that we Americans are edging towards an oligarchy with the best government money can buy.

So are we saying that, despite your pseudonym, you are actually an American?


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fatbrit Sep 14th 2011 10:36 am

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Originally Posted by johnny five (Post 9621730)
So are we saying that, despite your pseudonym, you are actually an American?


.

I'm both British and American. It's one of those things that happens when you're an expat, you know.


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