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Would agree with what you have said. Many Indian relatives and friends go to Goa for a few days only, those with 'time-shares' in hotel complexes stay a week but then are mostly self-catering and spend less in restaurants.
In general young working people have shorter and fewer holidays than in Europe although they may make more weekend visits. Older visitors are less interested in beach culture and will just sight-see and go to temples etc. However in terms of numbers there will be a gradual increase as the 'middle class' expands. How all this evolves we will see.
Apparently this year their was a shortage of accommodation.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/c...ow/7187025.cms
(Pleased you mentioned 'third class tourists' there are differences in social class and behaviour in all nationalities, and can partially explain the less than 'first class' behaviour of some domestic tourists mentioned on this forum).

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Yes I mentioned third class tourists and totally agree with you, there is this distinction in all races. I was simply quoting the remarks of my Indian friends from South Africa who were the ones who assessed the majority of locals tourists they saw in the streets as being like this. Their words, not mine.

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I was very pleased you mentioned it, I sometimes think that the different social nuances can be missed by both Brits and Indians leading to false expectations of behaviour on both sides.

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This is a lesson that will be eperienced here in due course. Need |I say more? - from erinsgirl's last posting.

I agree with you - but it may take a few more years of diminishing numbers of long-term visitors who spend in all sorts of outlets (not just nightclubs or casinos) during their stay, for them to realise that.

Unless there are plans afoot to turn Goa into the playground for the wealthy Indians (a bit like the South of France or Marbella many decades ago), but they have a long way to go to achieve that.

Why fly to Goa, when Dubai beckons, and certainly not with fake Louis Vuitton or Chanel etc?

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Bihar more happening tourist spot than Goa?
Times of India
NEW DELHI: Celebrated as the party destination in India, Goa appears to have lost its 'happening' tag to the humble Bihar. Data collected by the Union ...

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SORRY, Link didn't copy.....I'll try to cut & paste.

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Bihar more happening tourist spot than Goa?
Himanshi Dhawan, TNN, Jan 5, 2011, 06.23am IST

NEW DELHI: Celebrated as the party destination in India, Goa appears to have lost its 'happening' tag to the humble Bihar. Data collected by the Union tourism ministry appears to indicate that Bihar attracted a larger number of foreign tourists in 2009 than Goa.

The government's India Tourism Statistics report shows that while 4.2 lakh foreign tourists visited Bihar in 2009, Goa drew about 3.7 lakh losing its place in the top 10 destinations in India. Industry hands say that the economic downturn was largely responsible for the sharp decline in the number of tourists. Increasing number of adverse reports on the safety of women and declining law and order situation may also have been responsible for the drop in numbers. In fact states like Kerala and Rajasthan that have been hot international favourites have suffered the most in 2009 thanks to the global economic situation. While the number of foreign tourist arrivals dropped by 27% in Rajasthan from 14.7 lakh in 2009 to 10.7 lakh in 2008, Kerala saw 5.4 lakh tourists arriving in 2009. Andhra, that remains numero uno for domestic tourists, also witnessed stagnation with tourist arrivals increasing from 7.8 lakh to just 7.9 lakh between 2008 and 2009.

Delhi lost its place as the top ranking state in 2008 to Tamil Nadu that saw a 16.7% increase in foreign tourist arrivals (FTAs) in 2009. The top 5 states in FTAs were TN (23.6 lakh), Maharashtra (19.9 lakh), Delhi (19.5 lakh), Uttar Pradesh (15.32 lakh) and West Bengal (11.8 lakh).

United States continued to send the maximum number of tourists in 2009 as it had in 2008. The top 10 source countries in 2009 were USA, UK, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Canada, France, Germany, Australia, Malaysia and Japan. These countries accounted for 64% of the total foreign tourist arrivals in 2009.


Read more: Bihar more happening tourist spot than Goa? - The Times of India http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/i...#ixzz1A8sqAjHZ

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Letter from today's Times of India - I like that expression - sad, but true:thumbdown: :-

Goa is living in the 'garb'age
TNN, Jan 6, 2011, 12.32am IST



Tags:State Information Commission|RTI|Goa's garbage problems

The management of Goa's garbage problems has failed miserably on all fronts. While the blame for this rests partly with the Goa government for having failed to keep pace with the rapid urbanization of the villages and the burgeoning migrant population, the people of Goa are mostly to blame for turning our once beautiful Goa into a virtual garbage dump. This is what prompted a visitor to the state to comment that "man has lived in the ice age, stone age, golden age but in Goa people prefer to live in the 'garb'age". This is probably the "new age" culture that Goa has imbibed of throwing public health norms and ethics to the wind with an arrogant display of wealth and muscle power, and total disregard for authority. What other explanation do we have for the garbage piled up at almost every "No garbage zone"? Housing societies have to also share the blame for refusing to segregate their garbage and for not encouraging composting at source. With inflation at an all time high even garbage bags are hard to afford. This is why residents have no option other than to pack their wet and dry garbage in a single bag, adding to the problem.


A F Nazareth, alto porvorim

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Says it all really, and written by an Indian for an Indian paper, so no "forrener" influence!

http://www.business-standard.com/ind...-beach/421122/

But just where did this clearly accepted principle, in India, even by an educated person start? The principle being, the less customers you have, the more you charge those you do have..............


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re: PIO/OCI PM said:
"Both these cards are issued to people who are of Indian origin but not its citizens. But for some subtle differences on matters such as fee and processing time, there are little differences between them. The diaspora, accordingly, wanted them to be merged."

Anyone actually seen this in the papers?
What about FN spouse/ family of Indians?

AndyD

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I suppose it started by trying to get enough money to make a living. In the UK, supermarkets work on the principle more they sell, the lower the price.

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I saw this in the 'Hindu', a PM's speech, not sure what it all means, even mentioned voting rights. Various changes have been promised before but nothing came of it. Just making the cards easier to get for older NRIs would help.
A FN spouse is entitled to status of NRI on marriage.

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There is a difference between NRI and PIO/OCI.
I am a PIO but not an NRI therefore my partner (FN) will be entitled to a PIO card after we are married for a year but like me she will not be classed as an NRI.

I think (but not 100% sure) to be classified as NRI you have to be an Indian passport holder and to the best of my knowledge Indians who apply for OCI or PIO must now surrender their Indian passport as The Indian Citizenship Act, 1955, does not allow dual citizenship.

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Remy you are right in the precise legal definition but the term NRI is still used by all including Indian Government to include all PIOs. The affidavit that my husband got in November 2010 to prove his Indian birth refers to him as an 'NRI' and refers to myself as therefore 'NRI' , this was signed by a Judge.
We had difficulty getting PIO cards as he does not have copy of original Indian passport. In 1970s these were kept by British Home Office on naturalisation and he did not think to keep a copy. Not worth the effort now.
The affidavit was obtained so that I can again get a 5 year visa (refused last August because of the stricter document rules).

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So following that theory, (the first part), as an Indian you are selling a product/service worth rs10 a pop, but as you have just started the business and you need rs1000 a week to make a living, you try to charge your first customer rs1000 in case you dont get another customer that week?

This method of pricing prevalent in Goa in recent years is completely unjustifiable, so best not to bother trying to justify it?

British supermarkets (the second part).....where the hell did they come into it, for the umpteenth time

WE ARE DISCUSSING INDIA/GOA - WHY THE CONSTANT NEED TO COMPARE WITH THE UK?

but could you imagine Tescos having a slow moving line and doubling the price to get it shifted?

THAT'S A FAIR COMPARISON.......