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Daff Jan 12th 2010 12:00 am

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Reported on the BBC News website: Government to ban Islam4UK under terror laws . Link (if it works) http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8453560.stm. Anjem Choudry stated on the BBC Today programme that a ban is 'a failure for the concepts for democracy and freedom'. :eek::confused:

johnny five Jan 12th 2010 12:14 am

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Originally Posted by Daff (Post 8241034)
Reported on the BBC News website: Government to ban Islam4UK under terror laws . Link (if it works) http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8453560.stm. Anjem Choudry stated on the BBC Today programme that a ban is 'a failure for the concepts for democracy and freedom'. :eek::confused:

Well, he would say that wouldn't he?
I'm sure some of his defenders on here would agree?

The rest of us?
Thank God for a sane deciscion at last after all the dithering and the farcical court case!

wheatsheaf Jan 12th 2010 3:28 am

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Originally Posted by Daff (Post 8241034)
Reported on the BBC News website: Government to ban Islam4UK under terror laws . Link (if it works) http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8453560.stm. Anjem Choudry stated on the BBC Today programme that a ban is 'a failure for the concepts for democracy and freedom'. :eek::confused:

he clearly doesnt understand the concepts....the dumb _ss.

a_f_d Jan 13th 2010 8:26 pm

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In today's Goan Newspapers:
Micky Pachecho says all long-term tourists are on the 'doles' and don't have any money to spend.
A couple of other articles on the same topic in the Goan edition of TOI today - all mentioning a maximum stay of 90 days - where did that come from????

AndyD 8-(#

noni Jan 13th 2010 10:36 pm

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Originally Posted by a_f_d (Post 8247661)
In today's Goan Newspapers:
Micky Pachecho says all long-term tourists are on the 'doles' and don't have any money to spend.
A couple of other articles on the same topic in the Goan edition of TOI today - all mentioning a maximum stay of 90 days - where did that come from????

AndyD 8-(#


Days in Goa sun cut short, tourists pack bags - Times of India.

Will cops hound us out of Goa! Times of India.
short excerpt. from TOI

Goa's long term visitors are preparing to leave, but the farewell will be a bitter one this times. Britis Russians Israelis and even the odd Japanese are at the receiving end of the new visa regulations. The new rules stipulate tyhat they have to leave India after staying for 90 days and can return only after a gap of 60 days!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Goa's economy of which tourism is a key driver, is set to take a hit and the tourism industry has termed the new regulations "scathing"

The first of the exordus from Goa could begin this month " We arrived in November and we have to leave in January? We are loosing our money and holiday says tourist. :frown:

This is going to be the final nail in Goa's coffin and ours. :(

Goacrazy56 Jan 14th 2010 12:35 am

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Originally Posted by noni (Post 8247881)
Days in Goa sun cut short, tourists pack bags - Times of India.

Will cops hound us out of Goa! Times of India.
short excerpt. from TOI

Goa's long term visitors are preparing to leave, but the farewell will be a bitter one this times. Britis Russians Israelis and even the odd Japanese are at the receiving end of the new visa regulations. The new rules stipulate tyhat they have to leave India after staying for 90 days and can return only after a gap of 60 days!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Goa's economy of which tourism is a key driver, is set to take a hit and the tourism industry has termed the new regulations "scathing"

The first of the exordus from Goa could begin this month " We arrived in November and we have to leave in January? We are loosing our money and holiday says tourist. :frown:

This is going to be the final nail in Goa's coffin and ours. :(

Goa is finished for long term Ex-Pats if this cr*p the Mickky is spouting is correct.
Shamful
GC:(

johnny five Jan 14th 2010 8:56 pm

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http://www.telegraphindia.com/110011...y_11983006.jsp

So we are not the only ones feeling this way?

With this in a Calcutta newspaper, it brings it home to you that this affects the WHOLE of India, not just little Goa..........

Banyan Jan 15th 2010 4:41 am

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Originally Posted by a_f_d (Post 8247661)
In today's Goan Newspapers:
Micky Pachecho says all long-term tourists are on the 'doles' and don't have any money to spend.
A couple of other articles on the same topic in the Goan edition of TOI today - all mentioning a maximum stay of 90 days - where did that come from????

AndyD 8-(#

Mr Mickky should be made aware that many tourists are not on "doles" as you refers. Many have worked hard for 6 months in their own country and saved their hard earned cash to spend in Goa. Many retired tourists have also worked hard for their pensions for years and paid contributions to them. All these people spend lots of money in shops, shacks, restaurants, hotels and wherever.

Tourists on "doles" (job seekers) have to sign on every two weeks in the UK to obtain their "dole" and be actively looking for work. So they are hardly in Goa living on "dole". Government departments paying "doles" have recently had a major overhaul using outside agents who are very often interviewing claimants, so these tourists will hardly be in Goa for 5 or 6 months.

Mr Mickky needs to get his facts right and bring himself up to speed before he makes insulting comments and tars all tourists with the same bush!

Banyan.

Goacrazy56 Jan 15th 2010 4:46 am

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Originally Posted by Banyan (Post 8251906)
Mr Mickky should be made aware that many tourists are not on "doles" as you refers. Many have worked hard for 6 months in their own country and saved their hard earned cash to spend in Goa. Many retired tourists have also worked hard for their pensions for years and paid contributions to them. All these people spend lots of money in shops, shacks, restaurants, hotels and wherever.

Tourists on "doles" (job seekers) have to sign on every two weeks in the UK to obtain their "dole" and be actively looking for work. So they are hardly in Goa living on "dole". Government departments paying "doles" have recently had a major overhaul using outside agents who are very often interviewing claimants, so these tourists will hardly be in Goa for 5 or 6 months.

Mr Mickky needs to get his facts right and bring himself up to speed before he makes insulting comments and tars all tourists with the same bush!

Banyan.

:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup: here!!here!!!
GC;)

wheatsheaf Jan 15th 2010 4:52 am

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Originally Posted by Goacrazy56 (Post 8251919)
:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup: here!!here!!!
GC;)

A good PR effort is needed on behalf of Brit FNs to dispel these myths which frankly have some justification from the 1970s onwards and have been lent credibility with the Keeling facts.

Outside of this site, we should seek a local medium (newspaper, TV, advertising) that will paint a truer picture.

Goacrazy56 Jan 15th 2010 5:21 am

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Originally Posted by wheatsheaf (Post 8251933)
A good PR effort is needed on behalf of Brit FNs to dispel these myths which frankly have some justification from the 1970s onwards and have been lent credibility with the Keeling facts.

Outside of this site, we should seek a local medium (newspaper, TV, advertising) that will paint a truer picture.

Although I object to having to justify the Brits to the likes of someone with a brain the size of a pea,a wife beater and bandana wearing thug who is an embarrassment to Goa

I agree Wheatsheaf,any suggestions?
GC;)

wheatsheaf Jan 15th 2010 6:37 am

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Originally Posted by Goacrazy56 (Post 8252012)
Although I object to having to justify the Brits to the likes of someone with brain the size of a pea,a wife beater and bandana wearing thug who is an embarrassment to Goa

I agree Wheatsheaf,any suggestions?
GC;)

How about:

a) we form a BOAG. The British Overseas Association of Goa. A formal, non profit, apolitical, non charity, secular organisation, with a registered address in Goa and membership list and an elected body.
b) Inform all the newspapers, and other media of the BOAG existence.
c) Be seen publicly to be recognised as an association of Brit interests in Goa by the Brit HC and Consulate.
d) appoint a media representative who will maintain regular contact with and grow the relationship and understanding between the official Goan organisations and the Brits.
e) be a one stop shop for UK info otherwise difficult to access.
f) organise and hold cultural/social events giving local Goans and 'resident Brits and opportunity to grow understanding beyond the current "tourism oriented" status.

Apart from anything else, this will increase Brit access on the ground, and Haiti's current experience illustrates the need...and Goa will at some point require a Brit social contact point. With BOAG being a physical entity (not cyberspace) more social contact at an 'officially representative' apolitical would be a good public relations vehicle on the ground. This is severely lacking right now for the long termers.

Goacrazy56 Jan 15th 2010 6:58 am

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Originally Posted by wheatsheaf (Post 8252261)
How about:

a) we form a BOAG. The British Overseas Association of Goa. A formal, non profit, apolitical, non charity, secular organisation, with a registered address in Goa and membership list and an elected body.
b) Inform all the newspapers, and other media of the BOAG existence.
c) Be seen publicly to be recognised as an association of Brit interests in Goa by the Brit HC and Consulate.
d) appoint a media representative who will maintain regular contact with and grow the relationship and understanding between the official Goan organisations and the Brits.
e) be a one stop shop for UK info otherwise difficult to access.
f) organise and hold cultural/social events giving local Goans and 'resident Brits and opportunity to grow understanding beyond the current "tourism oriented" status.


Apart from anything else, this will increase Brit access on the ground, and Haiti's current experience illustrates the need...and Goa will at some point require a Brit social contact point. With BOAG being a physical entity (not cyberspace) more social contact at an 'officially representative' apolitical would be a good public relations vehicle on the ground. This is severely lacking right now for the long termers.

This is a marvellous idea,
You have obviously thought a lot about this,also a way of building relationships.
Umm!! I am intrigued, now how do we get this started and who could kick it off.Would it need to be someone on the ground in Goa
GC;) impressed with wheatsheafs suggestion

msj5 Jan 15th 2010 2:37 pm

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50% visa fee waiver for Commonwealth . the tourism ministry is likely to waive 50% of the visa fee charged from visitors of Commonwealth nations as an in
centive to boost tourism. Times of India.

erinsgirl Jan 15th 2010 2:46 pm

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Originally Posted by Banyan (Post 8251906)
Mr Mickky should be made aware that many tourists are not on "doles" as you refers. Many have worked hard for 6 months in their own country and saved their hard earned cash to spend in Goa. Many retired tourists have also worked hard for their pensions for years and paid contributions to them. All these people spend lots of money in shops, shacks, restaurants, hotels and wherever.

Tourists on "doles" (job seekers) have to sign on every two weeks in the UK to obtain their "dole" and be actively looking for work. So they are hardly in Goa living on "dole". Government departments paying "doles" have recently had a major overhaul using outside agents who are very often interviewing claimants, so these tourists will hardly be in Goa for 5 or 6 months.

Mr Mickky needs to get his facts right and bring himself up to speed before he makes insulting comments and tars all tourists with the same bush!

Banyan.



Very well said Banyan. You have shown up the errors in this man's statements. It's a pity as Minister that he does not have someone in his office check his facts before he pours forth his insults.


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