Would you fly the Canadian flag...?
Jan 29th 2009, 1:50 am
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Re: Would you fly the Canadian flag...?
attempted to negotiate with him - he then told me to f--k off .... which I did and had to stop my mother hitting him with her brolly...
He actually thought the St George Cross was simply the insigna of the England football team. Apparently my mother and I were a menacing duo.
He actually thought the St George Cross was simply the insigna of the England football team. Apparently my mother and I were a menacing duo.
Jan 29th 2009, 1:54 am
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Jan 29th 2009, 2:03 am
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of course, still does not make it right though, i was that law and this kind of thing grates with me as invariably we would get blamed for endorsing the bouncer, when unfortunately remaining neutral simply could be nothing more than to stop it kicking off. why folk thought the cops could get them into places when the doorstaff said no was always beyond me.
Jan 29th 2009, 2:06 am
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It wasn't a subject I'd thought of Googling before now. I have bookmarked this site and a couple of others I've just found on Google for research.
History is written by the victors, to the detriment of the losing side.
History is written by the victors, to the detriment of the losing side.
Jan 29th 2009, 2:09 am
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of course, still does not make it right though, i was that law and this kind of thing grates with me as invariably we would get blamed for endorsing the bouncer, when unfortunately remaining neutral simply could be nothing more than to stop it kicking off. why folk thought the cops could get them into places when the doorstaff said no was always beyond me.
Jan 29th 2009, 2:52 am
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How would a tourist know that was football gear - and what about him explaining, conceding the rule is silly, apologizing, making a joke of it, and going out of his way to make me want to go back? No he acted like a stereotypical bouncer and threatened and swore despite my 70 year old mother being with me.
I knew there was a reason why i left the UK. Nothing, nothing even remotely like this as happened in the 20 years that I left the UK.
Jan 29th 2009, 2:58 am
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Re: Would you fly the Canadian flag...?
The point was - be prepared to take notes - is that he had no idea what the St George's Cross was.
How would a tourist know that was football gear - and what about him explaining, conceding the rule is silly, apologizing, making a joke of it, and going out of his way to make me want to go back? No he acted like a stereotypical bouncer and threatened and swore despite my 70 year old mother being with me.
How would a tourist know that was football gear - and what about him explaining, conceding the rule is silly, apologizing, making a joke of it, and going out of his way to make me want to go back? No he acted like a stereotypical bouncer and threatened and swore despite my 70 year old mother being with me.
It would be like me assuming the Ontario Provincial flag is associated with Toronto FC, or the BC flag being the emblem of the Vancouver Canucks.
Jan 29th 2009, 3:08 am
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Re: Would you fly the Canadian flag...?
It's NOT footy gear, it's a national flag. Even if it was, the bouncer is only enforcing the rule of the place he was working at, though he went about it wrong if he threatened and swore.
It would be like me assuming the Ontario Provincial flag is associated with Toronto FC, or the BC flag being the emblem of the Vancouver Canucks.
It would be like me assuming the Ontario Provincial flag is associated with Toronto FC, or the BC flag being the emblem of the Vancouver Canucks.
Jan 30th 2009, 10:07 pm
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Re: Would you fly the Canadian flag...?
i am pvt chuff's canuck spouse. i just wanted to stick my nose in and throw out an opinion or two. i have lived in the uk for nine years and have been to ireland , scotland and wales. we had a flagpole in our back garden that i got from work. we flew the maple leaf on july 1 and airshow day. i liked the fact i was different more than a sense of patriotism. plus getting great shots of the red arrows in formation with the canadian flag in the frame...bonus.
a. the genocide question: most canadians don't know about all the history behind the union jack. the english themselves were and are guilty of every crime against humanity before they even left their cozy little backwater island and spread the cheer to the rest of the planet. starting with the crusades, peaking with the slavery and still going strong in the gulf...great record. i'm sure the scots and irish don't feel much like flying the jack. as for the welsh, i've noticed nobody seems to care, even though they have the coolest flag.
b. flying the flag: ok from a pole....not ok from your porch(smacks of 911 fever) however it is ok to have a canadian flag sewn on your jean jacket or knapsack...millions of non-canadian foreign travellers will attest to this.
don't forget that too much patriotism and/or national pride is not a good thing when you live on such a crowded planet. sociology guy will get this one.
c. proud to be canadian: being that most canadians are immigrants, children of immigrants or grandchildren of immigrants means that the only people that have a right to be proud of being canadian are the natives.(apologies to all the first nations for the misnomer) the rest of us can be proud that we or someone in our past had the brains and balls to get over here and have a go.
a. the genocide question: most canadians don't know about all the history behind the union jack. the english themselves were and are guilty of every crime against humanity before they even left their cozy little backwater island and spread the cheer to the rest of the planet. starting with the crusades, peaking with the slavery and still going strong in the gulf...great record. i'm sure the scots and irish don't feel much like flying the jack. as for the welsh, i've noticed nobody seems to care, even though they have the coolest flag.
b. flying the flag: ok from a pole....not ok from your porch(smacks of 911 fever) however it is ok to have a canadian flag sewn on your jean jacket or knapsack...millions of non-canadian foreign travellers will attest to this.
don't forget that too much patriotism and/or national pride is not a good thing when you live on such a crowded planet. sociology guy will get this one.
c. proud to be canadian: being that most canadians are immigrants, children of immigrants or grandchildren of immigrants means that the only people that have a right to be proud of being canadian are the natives.(apologies to all the first nations for the misnomer) the rest of us can be proud that we or someone in our past had the brains and balls to get over here and have a go.
Jan 30th 2009, 11:51 pm
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Re: Would you fly the Canadian flag...?
Wales had no explicit recognition in the Union Flag because Wales, having been annexed by Edward I of England in 1282 and following the Laws in Wales Acts 1535–1542, was legally part of the Kingdom of England and was therefore represented by the flag of England.
Jan 31st 2009, 12:20 am
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Re: Would you fly the Canadian flag...?
A proposed version is below, but there is another proposal that I think looks slightly better using a black and yellow for Wales, but I can't find the pic I was looking for.
Last edited by DaveLovesDee; Jan 31st 2009 at 12:22 am.
Jan 31st 2009, 12:24 am
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Found it. I like this one a little more.
Jan 31st 2009, 1:37 am
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Jan 31st 2009, 2:16 am
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Re: Would you fly the Canadian flag...?
c. proud to be canadian: being that most canadians are immigrants, children of immigrants or grandchildren of immigrants means that the only people that have a right to be proud of being canadian are the natives.(apologies to all the first nations for the misnomer) the rest of us can be proud that we or someone in our past had the brains and balls to get over here and have a go.
Well said
Well said