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Old Oct 14th 2009 | 7:21 am
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Originally Posted by dinger24
Everyone has opinions and views!
If people network for any other gain than a thank you they will surely end up disappointed more often than not, in fact I would tend to say that even a thank you is becoming much more rare! So I only network for free!
Well thank you for your opinion
I have never networked. This is in the traditional BE sense of using or gaining contacts to further your career, find a job, etc. You can make the phrase all cuddly by defining all social interaction as networking. However, if that was really the case people wouldn't say it was more important to network here than in the UK now would they.
 
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Originally Posted by dinger24
Many people get networking so confused and label it as simply a*** licking for self benefit! many of these people are of course self indulgent, ignorant, arrogant and lack decent personal skills
But the a*** licking is important with regards to finding a job.

In my husband's employment, there is definitely an element of more than just being friendly, sociable or going camping with the right people. There is seniority which is hugely important, and knowing the right people. Whether you suck up to them, or happen to play hockey with them is not relevant.

My husband recently got a hard-fought-for place on a new department (Lord knows how, because he didn't "network" Talent wins out?! ) but as soon as his confirmation was announced he had people coming out the woodwork, emailing him, shaking his hand in the corridors saying "well done buddy". Some of these people have previously blanked him, ignored him or who he has never met. But now that he has the new post, he might be useful to them in the future and might put in a good word for when they apply next year.

Don't tell me that is a sudden urge to be sociable and friendly to him. That is blatent a*** licking and he's sadly cynical enough to see that. He has always refused to play this game, and finds it quite distasteful. He just slowly wears them all down with his good nature, talent and skills. But it takes longer than the a*** licking route
 
Old Oct 14th 2009 | 8:05 am
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Originally Posted by Alan2005
You can make the phrase all cuddly by defining all social interaction as networking.
Hmmm . . . . .

Network -
1. To interact or engage in informal communication with others for mutual assistance or support.
2. forming business connections and contacts through informal social meetings
3. to meet people
4. to exchange ideas
5. to make contacts
6. to interact

I draw your attention to number 6! Are we interacting? or you wanting a cuddle?
 
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Originally Posted by Alan2005
Yawn... are you stuck on some kind of loop or something? You must get tired of repeating yourself.
Nope. Do you?
 
Old Oct 14th 2009 | 8:31 am
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What's with the cosmo psychology - do you spend all day watching sex in the city for tips on the human psyche?
Sex in the city - whats that?
 
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Originally Posted by Alan2005
Yawn... are you stuck on some kind of loop or something? You must get tired of repeating yourself.
Originally Posted by Yelkcub
Nope. Do you?
How about we get this thread back on track and stop the squabbling?

Thank you.
 
Old Oct 14th 2009 | 8:49 am
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Originally Posted by Switch
Has anybody else got any experience of just going to gain employment from any companies that will be willing to go through the LMO process?
So does anyone have any experience?
Has anyone just packed their suitcase and arrived and simply cold called
What are the likely hood of an employer being interested in a UK national showing commitment by turning up on their door step?
 
Old Oct 14th 2009 | 8:54 am
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How about we get this thread back on track and stop the squabbling?

Thank you.
Agreed. Fair point & well made!
 
Old Oct 14th 2009 | 9:08 am
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Default Re: Physically finding a job in Canada

Originally Posted by dinger24
So does anyone have any experience?
Has anyone just packed their suitcase and arrived and simply cold called
What are the likely hood of an employer being interested in a UK national showing commitment by turning up on their door step?
Dinger24

I think that this is a very valid point and shows that everyone who has or plans to emigrated has indulged in a certain amount of networking. If you cold call anyone they normally knock you back before even giving you a chance. Even if you are headhunted you are involved in the process.

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Nope. Do you?
Whatever...
 
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Originally Posted by christmasoompa
How about we get this thread back on track and stop the squabbling?

Thank you.
Sorry. Now that people have proved the point in my second post in this thread I'll leave it alone.

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Old Oct 14th 2009 | 10:05 am
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I am actually in the process of booking a flight to Calgary right now (mrs is doing it on othermeans!)
This is so she can she the country herself and I had every intention of calling a couple potential employers! So Iam very wary that cold calling is the right thing to do?
 
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Default Re: Physically finding a job in Canada

Originally Posted by dinger24
I am actually in the process of booking a flight to Calgary right now (mrs is doing it on othermeans!)
This is so she can she the country herself and I had every intention of calling a couple potential employers! So Iam very wary that cold calling is the right thing to do?
I can remember being a recent ad/pr grad from the University of Central Florida and cold calling adverting agencies in the Calgary area 10 years ago. I actually got to meet up with folks at two outfits during the summer of 1999.

I cold called them from Orlando and told them I would be in the area for more than two weeks. Cold calling is doable.
 
Old Oct 14th 2009 | 7:14 pm
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Its good to hear some positive feedback
 
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Originally Posted by Switch
I am a British national who wants to live in Canada. I have been three times on vacation and bout a newly condo in 2007.
I have tried for months to try and seek employment from the UK, and it has been quite honestly, a waste of time. So I aim to go in Feb for 6 months to get a job that will have a positive LMO outcome.
I am targeting organisations that have jobs on Job bank as I hope and pray that these should have an idea of what an LMO is and are willing to seek one for the right applicant. I.e. me!!

Has anybody else got any experience of just going to gain employment from any companies that will be willing to go through the LMO process?
Where in Canada? If your interested in Vancouver have a look at http://www.able-recruiters.com/ - they say the can help but you have to be there.

I'm targeting BC (Vancouver) because I work for a hotel and BC have a program in place to expedite the LMO for certain jobs - are your familiar with it?? http://www.aved.gov.bc.ca/provincialnominee/welcome.htm

Hope this was helpful.

Toots

PS - they say you don't have to have a work permit!! Oh my!!

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