Physically finding a job in Canada
Oct 13th 2009, 5:09 pm
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Re: Physically finding a job in Canada
First of all, when applying from the UK, employers have no way of knowing if you are legally entitled to work in Canada. People in Canada are having a hard time finding work these days, especially in places such as Ontario. And, having been in Canada since 1987, I can assure you that the Canadian job market is based on who you know and not what you know. Someone on this thread made the comment about Canada being the Nigeria of North America. So true.
Oct 13th 2009, 6:05 pm
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Re: Physically finding a job in Canada
I think that sometimes you might need to step back and look at your situation and consider if any of the issues you have are really major ones and furthermore if you might actually be contributing to the negatives you are encountering. Negative attracts negative; positive attracts positive.
I am not saying that everyone who has been negative is wrong, but no one likes a winger irrespective of your nationality.
The most important thing to remember is that you didn't emigrate because the UK was so brilliant that you had to force yourself to leave. The fact is an unique financial storm has occurred causing tough times irrespective of if you are in UK or Canada. You need to ride it out and remember why you emigrated in the first place and hopefully when the good times return you will be well positioned to reap the harvest.
I am not saying that everyone who has been negative is wrong, but no one likes a winger irrespective of your nationality.
The most important thing to remember is that you didn't emigrate because the UK was so brilliant that you had to force yourself to leave. The fact is an unique financial storm has occurred causing tough times irrespective of if you are in UK or Canada. You need to ride it out and remember why you emigrated in the first place and hopefully when the good times return you will be well positioned to reap the harvest.
Oct 13th 2009, 8:28 pm
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Re: Physically finding a job in Canada
What exactly do you mean by "Nigeria of North America". Nigeria is not known for nepotism - it is known for financial fraud. Whilst accept that it is not the only source of fraud, a lot of fraud originates from there. Are you accusing Canada of fraud or nepotism. One is clearly different to the other.
Oct 13th 2009, 8:39 pm
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Re: Physically finding a job in Canada
What exactly do you mean by "Nigeria of North America". Nigeria is not known for nepotism - it is known for financial fraud. Whilst accept that it is not the only source of fraud, a lot of fraud originates from there. Are you accusing Canada of fraud or nepotism. One is clearly different to the other.
Oct 13th 2009, 8:52 pm
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Re: Physically finding a job in Canada
Comparing Canada and Nigeria is totally wrong unless you are suggesting that the former is guilt of widespread corruption which begs the question why are you all either interested in going there or already residing there.
Welcome to the real world of business - every group of people whether it be religious, ethnic, profession, etc all have a certain amount of nepotism towards their own kind. Coming from a Catholic Irish background, I known that other Irish Catholics favour people of a similar background. Is it right? No but it is human nature.
Personally I have always tried to employed the best candidate irrespective of their background but that is the exception not the rule.
Ultimately there is no point in bitching about it; you need to start networking. If you are a member of an institute / organization in England , they may have a branch in Canada or have reciprocal agreements with Canada organizations. You might know someone who is on a social networking site (i.e. Linkin) who you can network with. Alternatively if possible start your own business. I appreciate that it may appear that I am looking through rose tinted glasses but ultimately that is how I view life; the glass is always half full, never half empty!!
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Oct 13th 2009, 8:57 pm
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Re: Physically finding a job in Canada
Chaps
Comparing Canada and Nigeria is totally wrong unless you are suggesting that the former is guilt of widespread corruption which begs the question why are you all either interested in going there or already residing there.
Welcome to the real world of business - every group of people whether it be religious, ethnic, profession, etc all have a certain amount of nepotism towards their own kind. Coming from a Catholic Irish background, I known that other Irish Catholics favour people of a similar background. Is it right? No but it is human nature.
Personally I have always tried to employed the best candidate irrespective of their background but that is the exception not the rule.
Ultimately there is no point in bitching about it; you need to start networking. If you are a member of an institute / organization in England , they may have a branch in Canada or have reciprocal agreements with Canada organizations. You might know someone who is on a social networking site (i.e. Linkin) who you can network with. Alternatively if possible start your own business. I appreciate that it may appear that I am looking through rose tinted glasses but ultimately that is how I view life; the glass is always half full, never half empty!!
Yelkcub
Comparing Canada and Nigeria is totally wrong unless you are suggesting that the former is guilt of widespread corruption which begs the question why are you all either interested in going there or already residing there.
Welcome to the real world of business - every group of people whether it be religious, ethnic, profession, etc all have a certain amount of nepotism towards their own kind. Coming from a Catholic Irish background, I known that other Irish Catholics favour people of a similar background. Is it right? No but it is human nature.
Personally I have always tried to employed the best candidate irrespective of their background but that is the exception not the rule.
Ultimately there is no point in bitching about it; you need to start networking. If you are a member of an institute / organization in England , they may have a branch in Canada or have reciprocal agreements with Canada organizations. You might know someone who is on a social networking site (i.e. Linkin) who you can network with. Alternatively if possible start your own business. I appreciate that it may appear that I am looking through rose tinted glasses but ultimately that is how I view life; the glass is always half full, never half empty!!
Yelkcub
(and you are taking the Nigeria comparison a bit too literally - have you been in Canada long?)
Oct 13th 2009, 9:35 pm
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Re: Physically finding a job in Canada
It's not the reference to Canada that is the issue, it Nigeria. Having worked there and with Nigerians in UK the Canadians are in a different league. They are hard working, honest people who don't look to fleece you at any opportunity.
Oct 13th 2009, 10:49 pm
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Re: Physically finding a job in Canada
Even if you don't see it as networking you are have a discussion with "people" which is one of your other pet hates that you have listed - why not just stick your head in a tree and then you don't have to deal with other people.
Oct 13th 2009, 10:51 pm
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Oct 13th 2009, 10:56 pm
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Re: Physically finding a job in Canada
Perhaps "correctly" is the wrong word! How about you "in my opinion you can use this forum to find people with similar backgrounds and polite enquire if they have any leads"
Oct 13th 2009, 10:58 pm
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Re: Physically finding a job in Canada
Well we'll have to agree to disagree on that - in my opinion if you are using this forum correctly you can find people with similar backgrounds and polite enquire if they have any leads - I have been able to do it with much success and would be happy to help others. Hence the "networking" reference.
Even if you don't see it as networking you are have a discussion with "people" which is one of your other pet hates that you have listed - why not just stick your head in a tree and then you don't have to deal with other people.
Even if you don't see it as networking you are have a discussion with "people" which is one of your other pet hates that you have listed - why not just stick your head in a tree and then you don't have to deal with other people.
Edit: And I use this forum for fun
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Oct 13th 2009, 11:12 pm
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Re: Physically finding a job in Canada
Everything is done for a purpose; even your postings have a purpose......
You don't have to have a 'what can you do for me' attitude to networker. Any relationship requires a mutual benefit otherwise the used party becomes frustrated and bitter. Is this what happen, did a network use and abuse you.
If you use this forum for fun, you need to get out more.
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Oct 13th 2009, 11:17 pm
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Re: Physically finding a job in Canada
Alan
Everything is done for a purpose; even your postings have a purpose......
You don't have to have a 'what can you do for me' attitude to networker. Any relationship requires a mutual benefit otherwise the used party becomes frustrated and bitter. Is this what happen, did a network use and abuse you.
If you use this forum for fun, you need to get out more.
Everything is done for a purpose; even your postings have a purpose......
You don't have to have a 'what can you do for me' attitude to networker. Any relationship requires a mutual benefit otherwise the used party becomes frustrated and bitter. Is this what happen, did a network use and abuse you.
If you use this forum for fun, you need to get out more.
Are you a new age spiritualist preacher or something........
