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did a bit of digging once into the history of this. cant remember where i looked now. but it goes back a couple of hundred years, the reason behind this was to stop people taking money out of the old country (uk). as usa not included in this and only old brit empire countries i can only conclude that this law was passed after we lost america

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http://bpia.youle.info/ something tried to infect my computer from this link so use with care

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"You've decided to emigrate and, in considering your destination, the likelihood of receiving pension money is one factor, you can make an informed decision to go to Bosnia or you can choose to go to Canada. If you choose the latter knowing that it means you won't get the money you've no complaint when you don't get it."

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This attitude made me laugh. I wonder if the writer ever complained about the price of petrol, having bought a car.

Or did he complain about rates/poll tax/council tax having 'chosen' to live in 'that' area instead of 'this' one.

Or complain about the price of meat, having decided against vegetarianism. Or the price of a beer/wine/spirit having decided not to be teetotal.
Or complained about a politician, having voted for one.

There are an infinite number of things we all knew about in advance. That doesn't mean we don't have the right to complain/campaign etc.

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Why do you assume the writer to be male?

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Because it was your quote and you are male. At least the reference you made to your wife strongly suggests you are male. :p

So have you never complained about anything at all even though you knew about it in advance?

That person who mentioned the red herring was right. All those points and all you do is ask what makes me think you are male.

Here's another I found - not yours.

"Yes, it sucks. No, its not going to change. End of real discussion."

That attitude would never have extended the vote, won civil rights, compensation, the NHS and any number of things we've all benefited from.

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:rofl:ah presumtion the mother of all !"£$ ups. if bristol uk is female then she might have a female wife. course thats up to bristol to put the story right:confused:

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Here's an interesting post.
Do think this might justify my presumption the poster was male?

:lol:

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I have not found a problem with this link in the past. Sorry if you have. You will get to the same site by going to : www.BPiA.org.au . As for comments by dbd33 you will find many and most of them negative - treat them with the contempt that they deserve and just ignore them.
smiges33 comment about the USA is interesting but I cannot find anything to back that theory up. You would get the full pension if you went to the Philippines. The USA has a reciprocal agreement with the UK we are told but if you try to find out what that agreement is you will have difficulty. It is just a blind. Think about it. Why would any country need a reciprocal agreement with another country to determine what it should pay it's pensioners that emigrate to that country ? Why do all of the European Community countries pay their pensioners the full rate wherever ? Why does Canada pay it's pensioners their full entitlement pension if they emigrate ? Why has the European Court of Human Rights taken on our case through the Canadian Alliance of British Pensioners, if they did not think that there was an injustice being done ? This case should be heard this year and we will then see how they rule on it. Anyone who is a member of the CABP has their name on the list bringing this action and if you wish to be included then you would be welcome to join. The website is : www.britishpensions.com

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cheers for the link.

dbd33 ill give you the benifit of the doubt. unless of course a sex change was involed. even more interesting theory:eek:

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It's been a complicated life.

If the references to the price of booze, petrol and so on are an acknowledgement that whining about the lack of indexing of pensions is pointless; it's just like complaining about the weather, then I accept that uttering empty complaints is reasonable enough.

It's only the idea that people who gave up their indexing by moving to countries where it doesn't apply have some sort of justification for changing the rules to which I object. If I move to the UK I might not like the price of petrol but there's no reason for anyone, least of all the taxpayers in the country I've forsaken, to subsidize the cost for me.

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The problem with ignoring my position is that it likely represents that of the voters in the UK. Why should they want to pay increasing amounts to people who fled the country years ago? Why wouldn't they want to see that money spent on good citizens who have lived their lives in the UK or poor refugees newly arrived from war torn countries rather than sent off to remittance men in distant colonies?

Prodical pensioners, how can you sell your greed to the workers of today?

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Can you tell me honestly that you get no benefits from Canada that you would not be entitled to if you adopted the same attitude ? Think about before you answer.

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I'm resident in Canada, I pay taxes in Canada, the situation would only be comparable if I were to leave Canada. Lots of Canadians do that, Florida and Arizona are full of them, but if they want to maintain the benefits of being nominally resident in Canada, such as healthcare, they come back for half the year and deal with the tax liability. I don't think I draw any benefit in Canada and I certainly wouldn't think that if I were to move away from Canada I could still claim any such benefit.

How long have you been gone from the UK?

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I've read (most of) this thread with interest. Having lived in Canada for some years and sponsored my mom to come here too, she is one of the frozen pension recipients. I've been reading the rules for Canada's Old Age Security, the requirements of which are a minimum of ten year's residence. Are British pensioners entitled to receive this - I don't believe there is a requirement to have paid into it. I'm not saying I agree with this, although my mom has been paying tax here for almost 10 years here. I can't believe that the Canadian government could be happy to be supplementing British seniors, if indeed residency is the only requirement.