gruffbrown

I'm serene and elegant on the surface and paddling like f**k underneath, but that's life.

humpy

I agree, but a lot of the muslim community dont or wont integrate with local communities, they try and set up there own schools, they have in some instances. that cant help the future muslim children to integrate, they wont have social skills or speak english very well. Some schools in Dewsbury have over a 50% ratio of muslims in there school, they integrate pretty well, thats how it should be, It would be different if a white community started there own school for white people only, It stinks of double standards sometimes

Lion in Winter

I live in Chicago where we have Korean schools, Mexican communities so large that no one needs to learn to speak English ever if they don't want to, huge Jewish communities with their own schools. religions and churches of every kind imaginable under the sun with a very distinct population in each, etc. etc. etc. It all seems to work fine. Of course there is racism and intolerance about, but real violence happens in the poorest communities. What is the common factor then? Lack of economic opportunity and education.

Lion in Winter

You can say that again.

humpy

I've put this on another thread and this one so you can all read it


I've noticed there is a lot of do-gooders on this forum who know everything.. I've held back some of my true feelings but no more, If I get removed for voicing my opinions and concerns then so be it, I have a life outside of this forum, some people obviously dont with the amount of posts they put on...

The town where I was born and spent 30 years living in (Dewsbury & Batley, they merge into each other) is a mess, I'll go through the reasons why it's such a mess and why I left, I'm not the only one who feels like this, I know at least 10 people who live in Australia who have moved out of my area and the main reason they state is because of the Pakistanis who have taken over the area. I have also received PM's from people who agree with what I say but dont want to put there name on the thread for fear of getting abused, I dont care anymore.. For the people who are commenting on what I put, have you ever lived in area which has been taken over and then over run by asian gangs, I dont think you can put a fair comment on if you havn't lived in a town similar to Dewsbury

What I will say now is, my experiences come from driving through the areas on a daily basis, working in there houses and seeing the problems there. I have also worked in heavily populated asian areas of Leeds & Bradford but I'm sure the problems I will talk about are common in Leicester, Burnley, Oldham and many more places throughout the UK


Some areas where they live look run down, they dont spend money on the externals of the property and it looks like a slum, it maybe better than what they were used to in Pakistan but it has lowered the prices down of local housing... My mate back home has tried to sell his house on the outskirts of Saville Town which is one of the heavily populated asian parts of Dewsbury, he can only sell to Asians, white people dont want to live there as it's too close to the Pakistani's, the Pakistanis know this so offer peanuts for the house, In the end my mate has had to accept a lower offer on his house, losing money but what choice did he have.

A lot of the areas have problems with rats, I've had rats and cockraoches run over my arms in cellars of a properties

, and have seen many in the gardens, they throw rubbish in the gardens, pour anything down the drain, Put animal remains in the bins, dont cover them up and rats get in, I've also seen round the back of curry houses and shops...


Most of the Pakistani's dont integrate, they dont want to, they have there own shops, there own butchers, bakers, basically the area is a mini Pakistan, they have no need to leave the area. They are always wanting there own schools, saying that white people dont accept them, absolute b.ollocks, its the other way round. They build extensions on the back of there houses without planning permission, when the council investigate they cry the poor tail saying that they cant afford to move, the council nearly always backs down or they will pull the racism card out.. They always try and do stuff on the cheap, I got asked all the time to do small jobs on the cheap for the,m whilst i worked for british gas. They think they are above the law for a lot of things, The police put a mobile road tax camera up several times a year on the main road thru the area, the locals say it's victimisation but it gets about 100 driver in a week who have no insurance or tax, some have been convicted off running 5 guys off the same licence..

There are always youths on the street corners whatever time of day, most dont work, claim benefits, An english pakistani may marry a girl from Pakistan, bring her over which is fine, she then brings all her family, more dole bludgers,.. none of the pakistani women work, they are baby machines so they can claim benefits, I used to see this and one asian lady admitted to me that this happened, she was westernised and hated that this happened but as she said, what can I do,

The biggest mosque in Europe is there, When the london bombings happened it was rumoured that some of it was planned inside here as one of the London bombers went to this mosque and the other bombers had visited it at some point. The police had to force access to search inside, the elders were very reluctant to let em in, the police had to use force in the end.

The youths drive round in very flash cars and I'm talking Ferraris, Porshes etc.. but dont work, when questioned they say they share it with 10 other guys, one local got done recently for money laundering, he owned a mansion and a few flash cars all from a car wash...

I had a Pakistani apprentice a couple of yrs ago, he told me that Saville Town was the biggest crack den in West Yorkshire, he said that the biggest drug dealers in West Yorkshire were asian and mainly from Dewsbury, they then opened up a company to front it all, usually a bed company.

When the petrol strike was on a few yrs ago, an asian owned petrol station put a sign up which he regretted. It said no white people will be served over the next few days, The national front turned up and wrecked the petrol station and attached shops. They play the racism card a lot, they have double standards, they can get away with being racist but turn it back on them and its wrong..

The area where they live is a no go area for whites, before you do-gooders comment on this, It is true, you've probably never been so cant comment. Put it this way Police patrol in 2's its that bad. 2 people have been attacked in the last week alone, unprovoked attacks, It's similar in the local town, white people get jeered and abused walking round, white girls get touched, there scared to walk around during a saturday shopping day.

We used to have a Woolworths, Marks & Spencers and other big name stores but nobody shops there anymore as it's full of every nationality but english, you name it, it's there, locals dont like it so go elsewhere, the big names have gone and the place is full of phone shops and pound shops. The town has lost its identity and it will only get worse.

Dewsbury used to be a nice place to live but no more, You could ask more than 80% of the white population if they could change one thing, first thing you would say is get rid of the pakistanis, they bring trouble. The place is over run with em now, they are taking over the town, there used to be areas that were all english areas but now Pakistani families are moving in gradually they are the only families on the street, it lowers the price of the houses as i've mentioned before. It gets to a point where white people move out of the area to avoid em, this is true, again I'm not making this up, this is what is happening.


I could go on all day about this subject and I know I'll get lots of abuse from you lot on here but I dont care anymore, I came to Australia to get out of the town, I feel for my family and friends who still live there, some are looking to get out and some already have, It makes my 2 Grandads sick to see what has happend to the market town they have spent 80 years in.

For those who are gonna comment on this, Let me ask you a few questions..


Where are you from ???

Has your town had an influx of immigrants over the past 20 years, we have had asylum seekers from Pakistan, Iraq, Iran, Albania, Bosnia, Poland, all dumped on us in past times ???

I think that this happens more common up North than down South as it's cheaper for goverment to house them.

England is on a spiral downwards, its gone past being repaired....

This could be last post on here but who cares................

Lion in Winter

I'm getting dizzy. Why are you posting the same post on multiple threads?

humpy

Different people have subscribed to the different threads, i wanted some to read what I put off this one as well, it's all relevant to the originally titled thread

Lion in Winter

Right. So why do you feel that violent and anti-social behaviour is due to the race of the perpetrators?

If you saw this, would you make assumptions about others of white skin (leaving aside for the moment that we have no real idea of the true racial make up of these people)?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/e...on/8346878.stm
These are Nick Griffin's "indigenous British people". I think.

What you have to say mirrors the argument that is sometimes made in the US, where there are many poor ghettos still where black americans live in huge concentration. Because that is how ghettos work. The rates of unemployment, failure to complete school, gangs, and a host of social problems are rife in these pockets of poverty. So some people make the mistake of attributing the problems there to the visual aspect of the race of the people involved. Yet naturally, when you are in a prosperous community, people with black skin commit no more crime than people of skin of any other colour.

Skin colour, race, nationality, do not cause anti social behaviour. Just because two things are seen together, does not mean that one causes the other.

humpy

Nick Griffin is a p.rick....

I think the BNP have some policies that are good if they were put into practice, mainly on immigration but I'd never become a follower,

Lord_Farquar

OMG, I hope you are joking. Name a good policy the BNP has??

humpy

I did... the immigration one, dont let anybody in unless they can offer the country something, very similar to what Australia is now.. unless they claim asylum for a genuine reason, there is a lot who claimed it in England who could of been sent back, it takes them ages to process the application that they get dole and a house whilst waiting, a lot then go missing !!!!

Pollyana

And of course everywhere except the UK is like that, isn't it ........

Lion in Winter

You might not want to rely on the BNP for your information.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...r-1809143.html

humpy

It may have dropped but the damage is done !!!

These figures are released by the goverment which we already know is corrupt !!!!!


We dont always believe what we read in the press do we now !!!

Lord_Farquar

Don't you think you views are ironic, given that you are an immigrant?