Time to arm UK patrol cops
Sep 20th 2012, 9:34 am
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Re: Time to arm UK patrol cops
Originally Posted by IvanM
And your argument is a smelly fanny.
Sep 20th 2012, 9:37 am
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Re: Time to arm UK patrol cops
Originally Posted by chris955
Just look at how often we hear about people being shot by overzealous Aussie cops even when they had other means of 'defense' at their disposal so yes you are probably correct.
Imagine you're a cop confronted by an armed criminal, maybe carrying a gun or a knife, or even just someone twice your size carrying a hammer.
The criminal is intent on doing you or some member of the public serious harm.
Backing away is not n option, neither is calling for back up (wouldn't arrive in time)
Would you now really wish your were carrying a firearm and be trained to use it, or not?
Sep 20th 2012, 9:42 am
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Re: Time to arm UK patrol cops
Originally Posted by IvanM
And your argument is a smelly fanny.
Sep 20th 2012, 9:50 am
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Re: Time to arm UK patrol cops
I couldnt imagine ever feeling the need to carry a gun. Cops nowadays have various 'weapons' at their disposal which can be used to disarm most criminals they are confronted with. Personally, no I wouldnt want to have a gun. As we see in too many other countries the gun tends to be the first course of action.
Originally Posted by geordiebloke
Ok, quick question for you and others who think that cops shouldn't carry firearms.
Imagine you're a cop confronted by an armed criminal, maybe carrying a gun or a knife, or even just someone twice your size carrying a hammer.
The criminal is intent on doing you or some member of the public serious harm.
Backing away is not n option, neither is calling for back up (wouldn't arrive in time)
Would you now really wish your were carrying a firearm and be trained to use it, or not?
Imagine you're a cop confronted by an armed criminal, maybe carrying a gun or a knife, or even just someone twice your size carrying a hammer.
The criminal is intent on doing you or some member of the public serious harm.
Backing away is not n option, neither is calling for back up (wouldn't arrive in time)
Would you now really wish your were carrying a firearm and be trained to use it, or not?
Sep 20th 2012, 9:53 am
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Re: Time to arm UK patrol cops
Absolutely spot on.
Originally Posted by GarryP
That's your desire, but totally unsupported by evidence, sense, or any kind of strategic decision making.
Much, much, better to cleanse guns from society, and keep them out. Then the police don't have to be routinely armed and EVERYONE is safer.
Arming police against a backdrop of generally available guns results in more deaths, not less.
Much, much, better to cleanse guns from society, and keep them out. Then the police don't have to be routinely armed and EVERYONE is safer.
Arming police against a backdrop of generally available guns results in more deaths, not less.
Sep 20th 2012, 11:51 am
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Re: Time to arm UK patrol cops
It already is.
Originally Posted by chris955
No change there then. Seriously though I would hate for the UK to become like the US, South Africa or Australia.
Sep 20th 2012, 11:52 am
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Re: Time to arm UK patrol cops
Not even close.
Originally Posted by IvanM
It already is.
Sep 20th 2012, 12:12 pm
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Re: Time to arm UK patrol cops
Originally Posted by geordiebloke
Would you now really wish your were carrying a firearm and be trained to use it, or not?
Sep 20th 2012, 12:49 pm
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Re: Time to arm UK patrol cops
what would a cop do if confronted with one of Chris's 'exotic animals'....
we can discuss this one, but getting annoyed and turning this into a UK/Australia debate does nothing....I think looking to the case of neutral countries who arm their police is interesting...it can work. Looking at society can assist.
I don't see it as a failure, to arm, nor does it have to happen.
we can discuss this one, but getting annoyed and turning this into a UK/Australia debate does nothing....I think looking to the case of neutral countries who arm their police is interesting...it can work. Looking at society can assist.
I don't see it as a failure, to arm, nor does it have to happen.
Sep 20th 2012, 12:58 pm
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Re: Time to arm UK patrol cops
Originally Posted by bibblybobbly
Im not sure of that, especially when you mention the words innocent people. How do you know they're innocent??
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...men-named.html
Sep 20th 2012, 1:00 pm
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Re: Time to arm UK patrol cops
Originally Posted by geordiebloke
Haha, amazing how two lines of written crap can say so much about a
person
The only people who usually know "a lot of cops" are other cops, or criminals
So which are you bingo? an imbecilic cop, or a criminal?
person
The only people who usually know "a lot of cops" are other cops, or criminals
So which are you bingo? an imbecilic cop, or a criminal?
who chooses that?
Sep 20th 2012, 1:05 pm
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Re: Time to arm UK patrol cops
Is too
Originally Posted by chris955
Not even close.
Sep 20th 2012, 1:34 pm
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Re: Time to arm UK patrol cops
Call someone qualified to deal with them.
Originally Posted by BadgeIsBack
what would a cop do if confronted with one of Chris's 'exotic animals'....
Sep 20th 2012, 1:41 pm
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Re: Time to arm UK patrol cops
In typical Mail fashion we are made to almost feel sympathy for these people firing guns at the Police, brandishing deadly weapons, threatening others etc etc. Live by the sword, die by the sword.
Trigger happy cop
Of those 'victims' in the photo's one of them was shot by accident when the Police mistook a torch for a gun.
Trigger happy cop
Of those 'victims' in the photo's one of them was shot by accident when the Police mistook a torch for a gun.
Originally Posted by bingobob777
33 shot dead between 1995 and 2010, and a few since. Quite a few innocents, quite a few up to sumfin dodgy but hardly deserving of a trigger happy cop
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...men-named.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...men-named.html
Sep 20th 2012, 1:42 pm
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Re: Time to arm UK patrol cops
No, 'fraid not.
Originally Posted by IvanM
Is too
