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Old Sep 20th 2012, 9:34 am
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Originally Posted by IvanM View Post
And your argument is a smelly fanny.
No change there then. Seriously though I would hate for the UK to become like the US, South Africa or Australia.
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Old Sep 20th 2012, 9:37 am
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Originally Posted by chris955 View Post
Just look at how often we hear about people being shot by overzealous Aussie cops even when they had other means of 'defense' at their disposal so yes you are probably correct.
Ok, quick question for you and others who think that cops shouldn't carry firearms.

Imagine you're a cop confronted by an armed criminal, maybe carrying a gun or a knife, or even just someone twice your size carrying a hammer.
The criminal is intent on doing you or some member of the public serious harm.
Backing away is not n option, neither is calling for back up (wouldn't arrive in time)
Would you now really wish your were carrying a firearm and be trained to use it, or not?
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Old Sep 20th 2012, 9:42 am
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Default Re: Time to arm UK patrol cops

Originally Posted by IvanM View Post
And your argument is a smelly fanny.
Yeah, yours!
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Old Sep 20th 2012, 9:50 am
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I couldnt imagine ever feeling the need to carry a gun. Cops nowadays have various 'weapons' at their disposal which can be used to disarm most criminals they are confronted with. Personally, no I wouldnt want to have a gun. As we see in too many other countries the gun tends to be the first course of action.

Originally Posted by geordiebloke View Post
Ok, quick question for you and others who think that cops shouldn't carry firearms.

Imagine you're a cop confronted by an armed criminal, maybe carrying a gun or a knife, or even just someone twice your size carrying a hammer.
The criminal is intent on doing you or some member of the public serious harm.
Backing away is not n option, neither is calling for back up (wouldn't arrive in time)
Would you now really wish your were carrying a firearm and be trained to use it, or not?
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Old Sep 20th 2012, 9:53 am
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Default Re: Time to arm UK patrol cops

Absolutely spot on.

Originally Posted by GarryP View Post
That's your desire, but totally unsupported by evidence, sense, or any kind of strategic decision making.

Much, much, better to cleanse guns from society, and keep them out. Then the police don't have to be routinely armed and EVERYONE is safer.

Arming police against a backdrop of generally available guns results in more deaths, not less.
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Default Re: Time to arm UK patrol cops

It already is.
Originally Posted by chris955 View Post
No change there then. Seriously though I would hate for the UK to become like the US, South Africa or Australia.
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Not even close.

Originally Posted by IvanM View Post
It already is.
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Originally Posted by geordiebloke View Post
Would you now really wish your were carrying a firearm and be trained to use it, or not?
No. I would simply pin him against the wall with an unethical neck grasp and say "We're The Sweeney, son, and we haven't had any dinner."
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Old Sep 20th 2012, 12:49 pm
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what would a cop do if confronted with one of Chris's 'exotic animals'....

we can discuss this one, but getting annoyed and turning this into a UK/Australia debate does nothing....I think looking to the case of neutral countries who arm their police is interesting...it can work. Looking at society can assist.

I don't see it as a failure, to arm, nor does it have to happen.
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Im not sure of that, especially when you mention the words innocent people. How do you know they're innocent??
33 shot dead between 1995 and 2010, and a few since. Quite a few innocents, quite a few up to sumfin dodgy but hardly deserving of a trigger happy cop

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...men-named.html
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Originally Posted by geordiebloke View Post
Haha, amazing how two lines of written crap can say so much about a
person

The only people who usually know "a lot of cops" are other cops, or criminals
So which are you bingo? an imbecilic cop, or a criminal?
they don't get paid alot, they put up with alot of shit, they have to do what someone tells them all the time

who chooses that?
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Is too

Originally Posted by chris955 View Post
Not even close.
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Old Sep 20th 2012, 1:34 pm
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Call someone qualified to deal with them.

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what would a cop do if confronted with one of Chris's 'exotic animals'....
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In typical Mail fashion we are made to almost feel sympathy for these people firing guns at the Police, brandishing deadly weapons, threatening others etc etc. Live by the sword, die by the sword.
Trigger happy cop Of those 'victims' in the photo's one of them was shot by accident when the Police mistook a torch for a gun.

Originally Posted by bingobob777 View Post
33 shot dead between 1995 and 2010, and a few since. Quite a few innocents, quite a few up to sumfin dodgy but hardly deserving of a trigger happy cop

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...men-named.html
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No, 'fraid not.

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