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Old Sep 20th 2012, 4:20 am
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Originally Posted by knockoff nige View Post
Which is exactly the way it is, so nothing needs to change.
Apart from a Glock 17 on every officer's hip.
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Originally Posted by Amazulu View Post
Apart from a Glock 17 on every officer's hip.
If people have voted for a government who aren't asking for this, then perhaps you are in a minority of people who want this and hence, you're disappointed on it not being there.
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I am the law.

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Old Sep 20th 2012, 5:41 am
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Originally Posted by knockoff nige View Post
If people have voted for a government who aren't asking for this, then perhaps you are in a minority of people who want this and hence, you're disappointed on it not being there.
I was just trying to point out that it is the government who decide police policy and not the police themselves, or indeed, individual officers.

It will be interesting to see if there is mood for change going forward.
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I think we can all be fairly sure that even with the vast majority of UK police being unarmed, they've still managed to murder more innocent people than there have been murdered police
Utter rubbish, show me the figures that back this up and name some names, bearing in mind that there usually at least 2 or 3 cops murdered in the UK each year.
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Originally Posted by bingobob777 View Post
Let's be honest, alot of cops are untrustworthy imbeciles who slid into policework due to a lack of other options.

Do you honestly think we should let them decide how they protect us? Remebering that our taxes pay for all this?
Haha, amazing how two lines of written crap can say so much about a
person

The only people who usually know "a lot of cops" are other cops, or criminals
So which are you bingo? an imbecilic cop, or a criminal?
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Originally Posted by Amazulu View Post
I was just trying to point out that it is the government who decide police policy and not the police themselves, or indeed, individual officers.

It will be interesting to see if there is mood for change going forward.
Actually, as it's the Chief Constables who decide how many firearms officers are deployed and where, in theory, I can't see anything that would stop them introducing firearms training to all of their officers without prior government approval.
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I think we can all be fairly sure that even with the vast majority of UK police being unarmed, they've still managed to murder more innocent people than there have been murdered police
Im not sure of that, especially when you mention the words innocent people. How do you know they're innocent??
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Please don't start getting personal. Trust me, you don't want to go down that road.

What, you going to shoot him??
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Old Sep 20th 2012, 8:15 am
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My feeling is that if you arm police you'll get shoot outs on the street, which are currently very rare in UK. UK is a very big population in a small place which makes it worse. And of course the number of illegal guns will go up as the criminals try to match the newly armed police force.
This would be my concern too.

There are highly trained armed response units in every force, for the occasions when they are needed. I don't think all police need to be armed routinely.
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This would be my concern too.

There are highly trained armed response units in every force, for the occasions when they are needed. I don't think all police need to be armed routinely.
Nothing will change and why should it, "if it ain't broke don't fix it"

Next week at the funerals will show a huge outpouring of sympathy and solidarity for the boys in blue highlighting just how rare such a despicable cowardly act this was. Gun crime is still incredibly rare in the UK and a major reason for that is the police are not armed routinely and that's the way the vast majority of the population and the police prefer it.

It might be hard for someone from South Africa or the USA to understand but that's just how it is.
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Default Re: Time to arm UK patrol cops

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Nothing will change and why should it, "if it ain't broke don't fix it"

Next week at the funerals will show a huge outpouring of sympathy and solidarity for the boys in blue highlighting just how rare such a despicable cowardly act this was. Gun crime is still incredibly rare in the UK and a major reason for that is the police are not armed routinely and that's the way the vast majority of the population and the police prefer it.

It might be hard for someone from South Africa or the USA to understand but that's just how it is.
Rates of gun crime have nothing to do with the police being armed or not and everything to do with the criminals ability to get his hands on a gun.
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Old Sep 20th 2012, 8:52 am
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Gun crime is still incredibly rare in the UK and a major reason for that is the police are not armed routinely
Total and utter bollocks (but not surprising seeing as it's coming from you). If this is true explain the situation in Sweden, Canada, Finland, Australia etc.
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Old Sep 20th 2012, 9:14 am
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Just look at how often we hear about people being shot by overzealous Aussie cops even when they had other means of 'defense' at their disposal so yes you are probably correct.

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Completely different gun culture in the States and irrelevant to what would be best in the UK. Australia would be a far better comparison.
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And your argument is a smelly fanny.

Originally Posted by Amazulu View Post
Total and utter bollocks (but not surprising seeing as it's coming from you). If this is true explain the situation in Sweden, Canada, Finland, Australia etc.
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