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Old Sep 19th 2012, 4:05 am
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2 policewomen needlessly executed by a total waste of DNA. If they had been armed (and trained), they might have had a chance at dropping this ******.

Having unarmed patrol cops is not working and is a quaint idea from a time long past and has not made the UK a safer place. Some of the most liberal, nanny state, low crime Scandinavian countries have armed police.

Arm them, train them, let them defend themselves and the community because as it stands now the system is a joke.
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Yes, throw guns at the problem
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Old Sep 19th 2012, 4:25 am
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Yes, throw guns at the problem
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2 policewomen needlessly executed by a total waste of DNA. If they had been armed (and trained), they might have had a chance at dropping this ******.

Having unarmed patrol cops is not working and is a quaint idea from a time long past and has not made the UK a safer place. Some of the most liberal, nanny state, low crime Scandinavian countries have armed police.

Arm them, train them, let them defend themselves and the community because as it stands now the system is a joke.
I agree, unfortunately most cops in the UK do not
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Yes, throw guns at the problem
Easy to say, when your not on the receiving end
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Easy to say, when your not on the receiving end
Does your second post contradict your first one?
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Does your second post contradict your first one?
Why would it?
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Why would it?
Looked like you took both sides. My comment was sarcastic. I don't believe guns are the answer. But you said that police generally aren't in favour of them either, and then say it's easy for me to say what I did.

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Looked like you took both sides. My comment was sarcastic. I don't believe guns are the answer. But you said that police generally aren't in favour of them either, and then say it's easy for me to say what I did.

My head hurts.
to be honest, guns aren't 'the answer', but I believe police have a right to defend themselves...I do not have an issue with arming UK police.

it can be done without undue heartache, or a loss of some currency... I feel. They've dropped the long tunics, the helmet etc - patrol cops could be armed. Maybe village beat officers could choose to leave the weapon behind.
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Looked like you took both sides. My comment was sarcastic. I don't believe guns are the answer. But you said that police generally aren't in favour of them either, and then say it's easy for me to say what I did.

My head hurts.
I'm not a big fan of guns either, but think that maybe the time has come to persuade the UK police, that they can do a better job of protecting themselves and the public if they were armed.
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I'm not a big fan of guns either, but think that maybe the time has come to persuade the UK police, that they can do a better job of protecting themselves and the public if they were armed.
Guns would put too much responsibility into the hands of the police and might cause outrage is the media report possible misuse of them. Lethal weapons are not the answer.

Plus, a gun doesn't guarantee your protection from another gun.
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Guns would put too much responsibility into the hands of the police and might cause outrage is the media report possible misuse of them. Lethal weapons are not the answer.

Plus, a gun doesn't guarantee your protection from another gun.


No, but if faced with one, you'd rather have a gun than not, surely?
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No, but if faced with one, you'd rather have a gun than not, surely?
I'd rather have some defence, definitely. But does it have to be a lethal weapon?
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I'd rather have some defence, definitely. But does it have to be a lethal weapon?
Not always, but if it's a gun, or even a knife, I'd think you're better to have that option, than not.
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Not always, but if it's a gun, or even a knife, I'd think you're better to have that option, than not.
Yes but my point is, it's easy to throw a gun at the problem instead of actually having the discussion of what the better non lethal option is.

Imagine if you were a police officer and tomorrow you were told that it is a requirement for you to carry a gun from now on. Would that be fair, going by your comment that they don't seem to want them?
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