House of Cards season 4, yeah don't bother.

Yes. It was good when he was scheming AND killing hot young reporters but now he's just scheming, it's boring

Ah you are talking Amazon Fire. You responded to an Apple TV post. There's the confusion source.

I haven't got to HoC 4 yet. Just binge watching The 100, and then wanted to have a look at Killjoys.

Life would be so much easier if there were actually more hours in the day...


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Mmmm, SmartyDNS is being blocked by Netflix proxy detection. I'm sure they'll find a work around but in the meantime I've started a free trial with Unlocator and they have something called Beta DNS - and it works

They've dropped all reference to Netflix on their website

No Paypal option so Mastercard it will be if I decide to carry on with them (my SmartyDNS subscription ends in a few weeks anyway)

Series 2 of Daredevil starts next week

I've got a feeling they will just keep blocking whatever methods you find. The risk of being sued because users are watching TV that other networks own is just too great.

Disagree. Netflix and the VPN providers basically work with the same technology and unless Netflix invent something new (which will be quickly copied), proxy blocking will continue to be defeated

If media companies could sue VPN providers they would have tried this already. Most are not based in the US or EU

This is a fight that content providers cannot win

Better stick with Foxtel

They have started using things like country codes, timezones, etc. to block machines on the basis of their setups. Since they are managing the access app, they have quite a few options to play with.

My guess is the next step in defeating them will be running the access app in a virtual machine.

I think the next step will be to use a VPN service that isn't that well-known, one that Netflix won't block as it won't stand out in the crowd of providers out there.

I honestly don't see how DNS-based solutions will hold up because it should be cake-easy to put an end to those...

Did I say that VPN providers could get sued? No.

I said Netflix could be sued.

Lets put it this way. Forget Netflix. Lets use the scenario of the BBC and Top Gear. BBC sell Top Gear to channel 9. People use VPN's to access Top Gear via the BBC iPlayer. Who misses out on the revenue? Channel 9. What do channel 9 do to claw back the revenue? They sue the BBC for allowing people in Australia to watch Top Gear via the iPlayer. What do the BBC do. They demonstrate they are making reasonable efforts to prevent those in Australia from watching their shows via IP blocking techniques.

..... and in order for the BBC to continue to make revenue by selling shows to foreign networks, those networks need to be convinced that the content they buy is exclusive to them.

Similar with Netflix. As much as Netflix would like to they cannot be showing content that is exclusive to another network in another country. They need to make efforts to control it.

Make sense now?

It's clear now that you've explained it but it wasn't in your original post

Netflix to a degree have contributed to the current situation as they have encouraged the use of proxies by non-existent policing and ambivalence. Now that they want to be a global broadcaster they are changing their tune. Too late, Pandora's box has been opened. How harsh they will pursue the use of proxies remains to be seen. A quick calculation shows them making over $2b pure profit out of China - a country where they have zero official presence. I can't see them trying to hurt that too much

They have to work with the same technology as everyone else - and there are some smart cookies out there. Hell, a 16 year old Norwegian boy broke DVD encoding in the '90s. Industry can't win this - adaption is the only option

I'll use DNS until it's blocked
Then I'll use VPN until it's blocked
Then I'll go back to torrenting

I'll get the content that I want - by paying for it or for free if I can't

Stick to Foxtel and 7, 9 & 10. MKR & Australia's Got Talent must make for riveting viewing

I've explained it before.

Agree. I can't see Netflix wanting to spend a lot of resources on blocking VPN's but when you think of what it will cost them if a bunch of production companies and/or media outlets start suing, well they have to be seen to be doing something. As they pop up they will just keep blocking. They will have a blocking team now keeping the lawyers at bay.

The new norm in Australia at the very least will probably be 3 subs. Netflix, Stan, and a Presto. That will cover just about everything. To be fair, Stan probably nudges Aussie Netflix for content right now anyway.

Still cheaper than a Foxtel subscription and the time it takes you to continually find new VPN's and messing with DNS'

It took me 10mins to find another DNS provider

2mins to change DNS settings and reboot router

Easy Peasy Japanesy

That's 12 minutes that often get tossed into the "Can't be arsed" bin.

I'm curious. What is it that you are watching and which networks in Oz have they been sold to?

If 12mins is too much time to sort out some DNS settings then stick to Foxtel

I enjoy mucking around with computers and tech so it's not a problem for me. 7, 9 and 10 are the go if it is

I've posted much of what I'm watching in this thread (do a stalker search). I don't know and care what networks they've been sold to here:
Foxtel? Only for bogans and mugs who like throwing money away
Stan? Who gives a shit
7, 9 and 10? Because of the ads and wankstick presenters the only stuff I watch is cricket and occasionally the news. I will never watch a series

Last episode of Happy Valley on iplayer tonight

Each to their own