|
Re: Share the pain
8 months into Abbots tenure and Australian society is already more fragmented than it's been since the Whitlam v Governer General crisis of 1975.
He's got 4 weeks left. |
Re: Share the pain
Originally Posted by knockoff nige
(Post 11270785)
I think you've seen your contradiction. Moving on indeed.
|
Re: Share the pain
Originally Posted by Beoz
(Post 11269703)
That would be fair, but Im told we need to remove the debt.
actually second thought, no, just remove NG. Its an unfair tax break. Lot's of tax breaks are unfair though - and generally favour those in higher paid employment or whose companies offer salary packaging. A lot of people don't get the opportunity to take advantage of these legal breaks. Perhaps we should consider basing taxation on an employees gross income rather than the marginal rate after the tax breaks have been applied? S |
Re: Share the pain
Originally Posted by Swerv-o
(Post 11271005)
Lot's of tax breaks are unfair though - and generally favour those in higher paid employment or whose companies offer salary packaging. A lot of people don't get the opportunity to take advantage of these legal breaks.
Perhaps we should consider basing taxation on an employees gross income rather than the marginal rate after the tax breaks have been applied? S A lot of higher income earners actually pay tax A large proportion of low income earners do not |
Re: Share the pain
Originally Posted by Amazulu
(Post 11271030)
Not unfair
A lot of higher income earners actually pay tax A large proportion of low income earners do not Is a high income earner claiming x amount of NG or other tax break a better person than a low income earner getting x amount in benefits? |
Re: Share the pain
Originally Posted by old.sparkles
(Post 11271037)
Everyone pays tax - one of the guarantees in life. Whether or not the government of your country gives you more back in benefits than you pay is another story.
Is a high income earner claiming x amount of NG or other tax break a better person than a low income earner getting x amount in benefits? |
Re: Share the pain
Originally Posted by old.sparkles
(Post 11271037)
Everyone pays tax - one of the guarantees in life. Whether or not the government of your country gives you more back in benefits than you pay is another story.
|
Re: Share the pain
Originally Posted by knockoff nige
(Post 11271042)
Agreed. The tax dodgers are at the top. People don't earn minimum wage just to avoid paying tax.
Plenty of low income earners at it too Part of the black economy |
Re: Share the pain
Because our governments (in any country) waste so much of our money, I will legally try and minimise the tax that I pay. I will not pay a penny more than I can get away with
If people and companies are using legal ways to pay the least amount of tax, then that's not their problem but rather the government's for allowing these loopholes to be in place One of the reason's that the UK is a great place to work is all the individual tax dodges that are available - it really is a paradise for independent contractors/freelancers |
Re: Share the pain
Originally Posted by Amazulu
(Post 11271047)
Tax dodgers are at every level of society
Plenty of low income earners at it too Part of the black economy |
Re: Share the pain
Originally Posted by knockoff nige
(Post 11271058)
Yes crime is bad. But I was talking about legal tax dodgers.
|
Re: Share the pain
Originally Posted by Amazulu
(Post 11271030)
Not unfair
A lot of higher income earners actually pay tax A large proportion of low income earners do not Sorry - I didn't articulate that well. I meant more from the perspective that you could have two workers on the same gross income but one has access to $20k worth of tax benefits and the other doesn't - It sets a very uneven playing field before you have even begun. I certainly don't object to manimising your tax spend though - I don't think that anybody would blame anybody else for that. If the government allow the breaks, then you should take advantage of them. However, it would be fairer if everybody had access to the same breaks, irrespective of income level. S |
Re: Share the pain
Originally Posted by Swerv-o
(Post 11271073)
Sorry - I didn't articulate that well.
I meant more from the perspective that you could have two workers on the same gross income but one has access to $20k worth of tax benefits and the other doesn't - It sets a very uneven playing field before you have even begun. I certainly don't object to manimising your tax spend though - I don't think that anybody would blame anybody else for that. If the government allow the breaks, then you should take advantage of them. However, it would be fairer if everybody had access to the same breaks, irrespective of income level. S |
Re: Share the pain
Originally Posted by old.sparkles
(Post 11271037)
Everyone pays tax - one of the guarantees in life. Whether or not the government of your country gives you more back in benefits than you pay is another story.
Is a high income earner claiming x amount of NG or other tax break a better person than a low income earner getting x amount in benefits? Rich or poor isn't the point. The investment type is. If I decide to invest my money in shares and I lose can I NG that? No. Hence if people, rich or poor, cannot invest wisely then why should our tax pay for their inabilties? |
Re: Share the pain
Originally Posted by Beoz
(Post 11271103)
The investment type is. If I decide to invest my money in shares and I lose can I NG that? No.
|
| All times are GMT -12. The time now is 7:19 pm. |
Powered by vBulletin: ©2000 - 2026, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.