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Re: POM, an insult??!!
Originally Posted by iamthecreaturefromuranus
The article is a piss take from Tooheys... its not for real.
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Re: POM, an insult??!!
Originally Posted by MartinLuther
Good advertising. :D
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Re: POM, an insult??!!
I'm confused. Where does it say it's a joke? It's in an awful lot of newspapers online,.
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Re: POM, an insult??!!
The very first thing I thought when I saw the picture was how the pom is portrayed, overweight, sandals with socks and the suntan marks below his shorts - deeply offensive . :D
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Re: POM, an insult??!!
Originally Posted by iPom
I'm confused. Where does it say it's a joke? It's in an awful lot of newspapers online,.
Their chief tosser was interviewed by the ABC (here) and the Western Australia's Ethnic Communities Council has recently joined the debate (here). Incidentally, I have discovered some solid evidence that the slang term "Pom" was originally an abbreviation of "pomegranate" (used as rhyming slang for "immigrant"). The authority is no less a figure than D H Lawrence, who made the following remarks in 1923: Pommy is supposed to be short for pomegranate. Pomegranate, pronounced invariably pommygranate, is a near enough rhyme to immigrant, in a naturally rhyming country. Furthermore, immigrants are known in their first months, before their blood "thins down", by their round and ruddy cheeks. "Jimmy Grant" soon morphed into "Pommy Grant"; possibly an oblique reference to pomegranates (which fresh-off-the-boat Poms quickly resembled). But whatever the reason, "pomegranate" for "immigrant" became the new rhyming slang of choice. This was inevitably truncated (as most Aussie slang words are) to "Pom". And here we are today. :) |
Re: POM, an insult??!!
Oh, and the final word from Tooheys:
Proving that it’s not just the Germans who lack a sense of humour, a bunch of English expats are trying to have the word Pom banned in Australia. The so called ‘British People Against Racial Discrimination’ have complained to the Advertising Standards Board about a series of ads for Tooheys Supercold which claim the beer is ‘cold enough to scare a Pom’. Says Tooheys spokesman Paul Foster, “Supercold is the coldest tap beer on the market in Australia, and given the Poms enthusiasm for warm beer we're just pointing out that they may have issues with it.†Icing the cake very nicely, Foster went on to say, "Frankly, as a Pom, I'm not the least bit offended." :cool: |
Re: POM, an insult??!!
Originally Posted by Vash the Stampede
Oh, and the final word from Tooheys:
Proving that it’s not just the Germans who lack a sense of humour, a bunch of English expats are trying to have the word Pom banned in Australia. The so called ‘British People Against Racial Discrimination’ have complained to the Advertising Standards Board about a series of ads for Tooheys Supercold which claim the beer is ‘cold enough to scare a Pom’. Says Tooheys spokesman Paul Foster, “Supercold is the coldest tap beer on the market in Australia, and given the Poms enthusiasm for warm beer we're just pointing out that they may have issues with it.†Icing the cake very nicely, Foster went on to say, "Frankly, as a Pom, I'm not the least bit offended." :cool: Cheers... And good on Paul. :D |
Re: POM, an insult??!!
Originally Posted by iPom
Cheers... And good on Paul. :D
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Re: POM, an insult??!!
Originally Posted by Vash the Stampede
It's not a joke; these wankers are for real.
Their chief tosser was interviewed by the ABC (here) and the Western Australia's Ethnic Communities Council has recently joined the debate (here). Incidentally, I have discovered some solid evidence that the slang term "Pom" was originally an abbreviation of "pomegranate" (used as rhyming slang for "immigrant"). The authority is no less a figure than D H Lawrence, who made the following remarks in 1923: Pommy is supposed to be short for pomegranate. Pomegranate, pronounced invariably pommygranate, is a near enough rhyme to immigrant, in a naturally rhyming country. Furthermore, immigrants are known in their first months, before their blood "thins down", by their round and ruddy cheeks. "Jimmy Grant" soon morphed into "Pommy Grant"; possibly an oblique reference to pomegranates (which fresh-off-the-boat Poms quickly resembled). But whatever the reason, "pomegranate" for "immigrant" became the new rhyming slang of choice. This was inevitably truncated (as most Aussie slang words are) to "Pom". And here we are today. :) |
Re: POM, an insult??!!
Originally Posted by Vash the Stampede
Icing the cake very nicely, Foster went on to say, "Frankly, as a Pom, I'm not the least bit offended." [/indent] :cool: |
Re: POM, an insult??!!
Originally Posted by iamthecreaturefromuranus
I still can't believe that this is for real... if Toohey's didn't think of it, I bet they wish they had now. :)
But if the guys are for real, and I'm not sure that its not just them taking the piss, haven't you just somewhat proved their point by calling them wankers for daring to say they don't like the term Pom? Their argument is that "Pom" is a racist slur on the same level as "Paki", "dago", and other derogatory terms. This point is not proved by my calling them something else entirely (namely, "wankers"). Incidentally, you have misrepresented my position. I am not calling them "wankers" simply because they dislike the word "Pom". I am calling them "wankers" because (a) they claim that "Pom" is on a par with n****r, etc. and (b) they want this word banned, and its use classified as a criminal offence. |
Re: POM, an insult??!!
Originally Posted by iamthecreaturefromuranus
Come on.. like he's going to say anything different. :rolleyes:
Are you accusing him of lying? |
Re: POM, an insult??!!
Originally Posted by Vash the Stampede
He could quite easily have said something different. He could have said "Well, speaking as an Englishman, I don't like it much myself. But that's what the company's decided, and it's out of my hands, so I won't make a fuss about it".
Are you accusing him of lying? |
Re: POM, an insult??!!
Originally Posted by Vash the Stampede
I suggest you talk to the ABC. Better still, contact Mr Thomason. I'm sure he'll put you straight.
Nope. How would that work, exactly? What's the logic there - if any? :confused: Their argument is that "Pom" is a racist slur on the same level as "Paki", "dago", and other derogatory terms. This point is not proved by my calling them something else entirely (namely, "wankers"). Incidentally, you have misrepresented my position. I am not calling them "wankers" simply because they dislike the word "Pom". I am calling them "wankers" because (a) they claim that "Pom" is on a par with n****r, etc. and (b) they want this word banned, and its use classified as a criminal offence. |
Re: POM, an insult??!!
Originally Posted by iamthecreaturefromuranus
Aren't the people on the receiving end of a 'racist slur' the ones to judge if its racist or not, and not the person handing it out?
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