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Re: POM, an insult??!!
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Re: POM, an insult??!!
Originally Posted by thebears
bollocks
correction Pommy Bollocks |
Re: POM, an insult??!!
Originally Posted by sassenach
i dont expect someone of limited intelligence to reply in any other way ,you obviously was not born in the british isles .
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Re: POM, an insult??!!
Originally Posted by northernbird
you spout some shite sometimes but this takes the cake.
Must be a *Northern* thang:rolleyes: :cool: :D |
Re: POM, an insult??!!
Originally Posted by northernbird
you spout some shite sometimes but this takes the cake.
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Re: POM, an insult??!!
Originally Posted by sassenach
Thankyou for the compliment ,it must have taken you a while to come up with that one ,must be something to do with the fact you have been suitably cloned and are not free thinking .
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Re: POM, an insult??!!
Originally Posted by busterboy
From the man who tries to close down arguments with statements akin to 'rack off, you are not welcome in our board, get back to your own' I find your statement on closed minds interesting.
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Re: POM, an insult??!!
Originally Posted by sassenach
oh dear dear .We are upset
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Re: POM, an insult??!!
Originally Posted by hevs
I never objected to Pakistani DJ's mate, that was someone else surely ;) :D
As for the rest of the sentence, I don't understand it? Are you saying i'm overreacting to the term Paki? Or agreeing its cringy? :confused: Don't mind either way, but been as you were quoting me and all that ;) :p :D Cultural relativity. |
Re: POM, an insult??!!
Nobody has bothered to comment yet, you're too busy slagging each other off. :D
Pom not a racist term, rules sheriff GORDON CURRIE CALLING an Englishman a "pom" is not racially abusive, a court ruled yesterday. The controversial decree came as a Scottish man was cleared of using the remark towards an English police officer. Sheriff Lindsay Foulis said it is not a derogatory term because it can be deemed only to be "mildly offensive". He said the term - which is widely used by Australians to denigrate the English - compared favourably against "nigger", "paki", "chink" and "coon". He found William Gallagher, 39, not guilty of racially aggravated breach of the peace after hearing how he abused Tayside Sergeant Rodney Wigley, 54. As he was being charged with other offences by the English officer, Gallagher said: "Speak Scottish, you f***ing pom. I f***ing hate poms." Sgt Wigley told Perth Sheriff Court that he had never been insulted like that before and was deeply upset by the comments. He said: "People often swear and shout, but never anything like that. I don't know what sparked him off. He obviously didn't like my accent. "I found it quite offensive. It was the way it was said - it was said with venom. It was an obvious attack on my ethnicity. "It was a term made by a Scot towards an Englishman which I perceived to be racist." In a bizarre courtroom exchange, Mr Foulis then asked the officer how it compared to being called a "bastard" or a "c***". Sgt Wigley said he found "pom" more offensive. PC Barry Robertson told the court: "He was using the term as a slur that day. It was not a word you come across very often. "It was obviously directed towards English people." John Malpass, the procurator-fiscal depute, described the remark as "offensive, perceived as racially motivated and conduct which should not be tolerated in any walk of life". He added: "It is not acceptable to say a police officer should not be offended by that. "The manner and context in which it was delivered clearly proved to be racist. "'F***ing pom' is racially aggravated. "It's a derogatory reference to persons of English ethnicity." The court was told that the origin of the term dated back to the shipping of criminals to penal colonies in Australia in the 18th and 19th centuries. Pom or pommie could be derived from "prisoners of mother England", or may be an amalgam of immigrant and pomegranate - the colour new prisoners went in the sun after arriving in Australia. Solicitor David Holmes, quoting the Collins English Dictionary, said pom was described as a "mildly offensive" term - often used for criticising opponents in the Ashes cricket match between England and Australia. Sheriff Foulis said: "The sergeant and two officers were holding an accused who was being truculent. The accused says 'speak Scottish' and makes a reference to 'f***ing poms'. "If we have regard to the Collins dictionary, words like nigger, paki, chink and coon are all described as derogatory words. "They are, at the beginning of the 21st century, considered to be insulting or derogatory. That is where society has reached. "Pom or pommie, on the other hand, is defined as mildly offensive, and with the greatest of respect to Sgt Wigley, I consider that's a quite significant difference. "In the circumstances, I am not satisfied beyond reasonable doubt that the charge of breach of the peace has been established." OzTennis :) |
Re: POM, an insult??!!
Originally Posted by sassenach
i personally class the word pom as a racial slur and as such if a pom doesnt mind being called a pom then as such that person accepts the use of racial slurs in everyday speech and is probably but not always liable to use racial slurs when describing other ethnics .It seems to me i am in the minority but we are a fair percentage going by the poll running on this site ,and lets face it the black ,asian population of the uk are less then the percentage that have voted against the word and they have a far greater say in the uk then we do in regards to the use of the word [pom] ,so i say those that use it freely and willingly are indeed racist and those that describe them selves as poms are either doing one of two things and they are ,taking the power away from the word in the first place just as the ameican blacks do with the word nigger ,or they are sucking up to their australian friends
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Re: POM, an insult??!!
Originally Posted by OzTennis
Nobody has bothered to comment yet, you're too busy slagging each other off. :D
Pom not a racist term, rules sheriff GORDON CURRIE CALLING an Englishman a "pom" is not racially abusive, a court ruled yesterday. The controversial decree came as a Scottish man was cleared of using the remark towards an English police officer. Sheriff Lindsay Foulis said it is not a derogatory term because it can be deemed only to be "mildly offensive". He said the term - which is widely used by Australians to denigrate the English - compared favourably against "nigger", "paki", "chink" and "coon". He found William Gallagher, 39, not guilty of racially aggravated breach of the peace after hearing how he abused Tayside Sergeant Rodney Wigley, 54. As he was being charged with other offences by the English officer, Gallagher said: "Speak Scottish, you f***ing pom. I f***ing hate poms." Sgt Wigley told Perth Sheriff Court that he had never been insulted like that before and was deeply upset by the comments. He said: "People often swear and shout, but never anything like that. I don't know what sparked him off. He obviously didn't like my accent. "I found it quite offensive. It was the way it was said - it was said with venom. It was an obvious attack on my ethnicity. "It was a term made by a Scot towards an Englishman which I perceived to be racist." In a bizarre courtroom exchange, Mr Foulis then asked the officer how it compared to being called a "bastard" or a "c***". Sgt Wigley said he found "pom" more offensive. PC Barry Robertson told the court: "He was using the term as a slur that day. It was not a word you come across very often. "It was obviously directed towards English people." John Malpass, the procurator-fiscal depute, described the remark as "offensive, perceived as racially motivated and conduct which should not be tolerated in any walk of life". He added: "It is not acceptable to say a police officer should not be offended by that. "The manner and context in which it was delivered clearly proved to be racist. "'F***ing pom' is racially aggravated. "It's a derogatory reference to persons of English ethnicity." The court was told that the origin of the term dated back to the shipping of criminals to penal colonies in Australia in the 18th and 19th centuries. Pom or pommie could be derived from "prisoners of mother England", or may be an amalgam of immigrant and pomegranate - the colour new prisoners went in the sun after arriving in Australia. Solicitor David Holmes, quoting the Collins English Dictionary, said pom was described as a "mildly offensive" term - often used for criticising opponents in the Ashes cricket match between England and Australia. Sheriff Foulis said: "The sergeant and two officers were holding an accused who was being truculent. The accused says 'speak Scottish' and makes a reference to 'f***ing poms'. "If we have regard to the Collins dictionary, words like nigger, paki, chink and coon are all described as derogatory words. "They are, at the beginning of the 21st century, considered to be insulting or derogatory. That is where society has reached. "Pom or pommie, on the other hand, is defined as mildly offensive, and with the greatest of respect to Sgt Wigley, I consider that's a quite significant difference. "In the circumstances, I am not satisfied beyond reasonable doubt that the charge of breach of the peace has been established." OzTennis :) I read it Oz... but it's a far too sensible post for this thread right now. When they've all calmed down and stopped slagging each other off, they'll realise what you posted. ;) |
Re: POM, an insult??!!
Originally Posted by sassenach
i personally class the word pom as a racial slur and as such if a pom doesnt mind being called a pom then as such that person accepts the use of racial slurs in everyday speech and is probably but not always liable to use racial slurs when describing other ethnics
Originally Posted by sassenach
,so i say those that use it freely and willingly are indeed racist and those that describe them selves as poms are either doing one of two things and they are ,taking the power away from the word in the first place just as the ameican blacks do with the word nigger
Look. Show me someone who has a real problem with Pom, and complains incessantly, and I'll show you someone who has a real problem with a lot of people in general, namely attitude. Besides, most Aussies would bore of it after a while. It's people like you that keep it going. |
Re: POM, an insult??!!
Originally Posted by BadgeIsBack
really?You'd be laughed out of court with that bit of guess work.
eh?!! But aren't the blacks allowed to take any power they like from 'their' word? Now you're saying they shouldn't and the phrase should remain with their opponents as a nice little insult? Look. Show me someone who has a real problem with Pom, and complains incessantly, and I'll show you someone who has a real problem with a lot of people in general, namely attitude. Besides, most Aussies would bore of it after a while. It's people like you that keep it going. As i have the black /asian community in the uk dont amount to that kind of percentage and yet a lot of notice is taken of them . I have stated my case but i will repat it ,i believe it is a racial slur ,i do not like it ,and i believe those english that use it for themselves are just sucking up to fit in or using it to take the power out of the word . Any way what is wrong with attitude? dont you like people that fit into the mainstream or have an opposite opinion to yours . I suggest you move to north korea where they operate a dictatorship and is ideally suited for most on this side of the forum . |
Re: POM, an insult??!!
Originally Posted by thebears
bollocks
correction Pommy Bollocks |
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