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Just where an argument becomes a slanging match is debateable (which in itself is an argument <g>) and I won't be drawn into the latter. If I could work out what your point(s) is/are I might disagree - but I can't so I won't <ag>.

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Very true - I've felt diminished often enough to know <g>.

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Me too <g>

Takes an even bigger person to forgive and forget though eh;)

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Haven't read the whole thread so somebody may well have said this already but....


It is difficult to be offended by any slur when you are English.

How can you, when you originate from a country with amazing history, beautiful countryside, fabulous culture, great universities.

(but shocking weather).

Whereas if you are from a third world country which has many, many problems and you are constantly seen (probably wrongly) as a drain on society and the attacks are nasty because of the colour of your skin, then it becomes offensive.

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Reminds me of a quote:

'No man lives without jostling and being jostled; in all ways he has to elbow himself through the world, giving and receiving offence. '
Thomas Carlyle

or you could go with Alexander Pope...

'To every trifle take offence, that always shows great pride... or little sense.'

;)

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I'll take that as a Yes then :confused:

How does it prove that Aus is 20-30 years behind?

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Yep..I like the pope guy. He talks sense;)

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really that does surprise me .
I wonder how many times you have been in coversations revolving around how the aborigines have sucked the country dry and get cheap car loans and you have nodded like a donkey in agreement just to fit in ,i wonder how mant times you have been in a conversation and someone mentions all the asians coming in and not assimalating and they should all be sent back and you have nodded like a donkey in agrrement just to fit in .
I wonder if you have ever been in a conversation and someone has mentioned all the poms coming in and taking our jobs and you have nodded in agreement just because you really really want to be an aussie .

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I'm with Pheonix here, I would never condone Racism in any way.

I have been on the other end of Racist abuse from a Pakistani in the UK before I came and even then I can see that for what it was, one tosser in a bunch of decent people :)

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This is the sort of stuff my FIL spouts, mainly because he hears it on the radio and ends up repeating it, not that he believes it, but because it's 'popular' and maybe he's fearful deep down. I have been in many of those conversations and I have never sat there and agreed just to 'fit in'.

Anyone with a backbone wouldn't either.

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maybe never. You're guessing(!) Maybe you have?

I saw a quote by Hevs saying she cringes when she hears "Pakis" on the radio. This is what I say and it applies to how bad 'Pom' is.

There is such a thing as cultural relativity. Do people cringe because of what Paki came to mean in England in the 70s? Or because noone in the world should ever abbreviate a name?

Things are different in different places. I cringe when Singapore executes a young bloke for being nothing other than fool. Deterrence? How can it be when all it takes is a fool for an hour and regret it every hour after they are caught.

I cringe every time a life is considered cheap in the Middle East, or Iran executes some criminals against an interpretation of a religious code who would be spared elsewhere. Cultural relativity.

I can't see how Pom can really be that bad, if you take it personally then I think there is more to your problem that meets the eye - there's a correlation somewhere of disgruntled people and a whole host of other things. I can see it pissing people off, but it is a minority - uranus said 1/6 as if that proved his point - it doesn't.

When people can't take Australian ways, or talk about dullness, and or why someone jumps on a MBUK bandwagon: Most just want to be back with friends and family, others choose to 'politicise it'. You see it time and time again. I sometimes feel for them that pointing out this sort of stuff sounds very noble and adds to their cause.

The reason a minority of people can't live in Australia is because they see themselves as liberal (for want of a better word) people. They then choose to go and live in some of Australia's least liberal areas which is like any other like place in the world, like the sort of places that breed that English animal the 'yob'. I learnt one thing after 3 months, local people like these do not go and live in these areas. I know this because my 'liberal' work colleagues tell me. They avoid them like the plague. It's only naive British migrants who think these places are the bees knees just because they can think it buys them a lifestyle they fancy.

It hurts when they feel ripped off by, really developers, of all people.

I also think a lot are not as liberal as they like to think they are - again its gives them credibility after they've made an honest mistake.

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Why does this surprise you? Perhaps we socialise with different kinds of people. Certainly my friends are respectful of other cultures.

See above re social circles.

If you know me [which you don't] you'd know I don't do the *fit in* with anyone. I don't do the nodding dog thing. Never have and never will. I have more respect for myself and those who's opinions I value. Instead I debate and try change peoples views through good conversation as most people are logical and intelligent and see the truth.

I beleive anyone who is invited into any country should respect the values of said country and adopt the cultural values to some extent whilst allowing themselves to still be individual. It's called having respect for your host country.

Why would I want to be an Aussie:confused:

I love living in Aus and hated living in UK, even though I had a fabulous life in UK in terms of job / lifestyle / money etc.

I'm a Pom and I'm proud to be a Pom...I have absolutely NO desire to be an Aussie. I'm happy to have duel citizenship so I can come and go as I please.

I am not an Aussie ......I'm a Pom and proud of it:)

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I never objected to Pakistani DJ's mate, that was someone else surely ;) :D

As for the rest of the sentence, I don't understand it? Are you saying i'm overreacting to the term Paki? Or agreeing its cringy? :confused: Don't mind either way, but been as you were quoting me and all that ;) :p :D

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Do you work for the Samaritans?

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Gee, that counselling course really paid off! :)