Pistorius. Guilty or not?
Apr 10th 2014, 10:31 am
#106
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Re: Pistorius. Guilty or not?
Only on weekends
I take my phone with me to the toilet all the time. Before phones could read the news, it was a newspaper.
At the end of the day, you are speculating. The purpose of the court is to determine beyond reasonable doubt whether he intentionally killed his girlfriend.
It's going to be very hard for a prosecutor to prove that. A recorded conversation or letter is probably the only way.
I take my phone with me to the toilet all the time. Before phones could read the news, it was a newspaper.
At the end of the day, you are speculating. The purpose of the court is to determine beyond reasonable doubt whether he intentionally killed his girlfriend.
It's going to be very hard for a prosecutor to prove that. A recorded conversation or letter is probably the only way.
I just think the Intruder scenario doesn't add up! He lived in a high rise apartment on a secure complex, he felt secure enough to go to sleep with the balcony doors open, a person that paranoid about intruders just wouldn't do that. She was locked in the ensuite toilet at 3am having a pee, my ensuite door doesn't even get closed if I need a pee at 3am! He's also has a reputation for being aggressive he once got up in the night and drove 400 miles to settle an argument with a ex girlfriend.
It will be up to the judges opinion if he can say he believes that without reasonable doubt he's guilty or not.
Apr 10th 2014, 10:49 am
#107
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Re: Pistorius. Guilty or not?
Nothing is ever black and white just many shades of grey. IMO given the facts I have, he is in my mind guilty.
I just think the Intruder scenario doesn't add up! He lived in a high rise apartment on a secure complex, he felt secure enough to go to sleep with the balcony doors open, a person that paranoid about intruders just wouldn't do that. She was locked in the ensuite toilet at 3am having a pee, my ensuite door doesn't even get closed if I need a pee at 3am! He's also has a reputation for being aggressive he once got up in the night and drove 400 miles to settle an argument with a ex girlfriend.
It will be up to the judges opinion if he can say he believes that without reasonable doubt he's guilty or not.
I just think the Intruder scenario doesn't add up! He lived in a high rise apartment on a secure complex, he felt secure enough to go to sleep with the balcony doors open, a person that paranoid about intruders just wouldn't do that. She was locked in the ensuite toilet at 3am having a pee, my ensuite door doesn't even get closed if I need a pee at 3am! He's also has a reputation for being aggressive he once got up in the night and drove 400 miles to settle an argument with a ex girlfriend.
It will be up to the judges opinion if he can say he believes that without reasonable doubt he's guilty or not.
Apr 10th 2014, 12:08 pm
#109
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Re: Pistorius. Guilty or not?
Heres my two pence worth.
I dont believe she got up for a pee, women of a certain age (of which I am one) get up in the night for a pee, sometime's twice. Younger women dont get up they have better bladder control. I am thinking of a couple of different scenarios
1 They were arguing, she was scared, ran to the bathroom picking up her phone off the bedside table and taking it with her to call for help.
2 She went to the loo while he was sleeping, to text or email someone possibly a man, he wasnt asleep, knew what she was up to and shot her in a jealous rage.
I dont buy that she went to the loo for a pee.
My thoughts.
I dont believe she got up for a pee, women of a certain age (of which I am one) get up in the night for a pee, sometime's twice. Younger women dont get up they have better bladder control. I am thinking of a couple of different scenarios
1 They were arguing, she was scared, ran to the bathroom picking up her phone off the bedside table and taking it with her to call for help.
2 She went to the loo while he was sleeping, to text or email someone possibly a man, he wasnt asleep, knew what she was up to and shot her in a jealous rage.
I dont buy that she went to the loo for a pee.
My thoughts.
Apr 10th 2014, 12:46 pm
#110
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Re: Pistorius. Guilty or not?
Heres my two pence worth.
I dont believe she got up for a pee, women of a certain age (of which I am one) get up in the night for a pee, sometime's twice. Younger women dont get up they have better bladder control. I am thinking of a couple of different scenarios
1 They were arguing, she was scared, ran to the bathroom picking up her phone off the bedside table and taking it with her to call for help.
2 She went to the loo while he was sleeping, to text or email someone possibly a man, he wasnt asleep, knew what she was up to and shot her in a jealous rage.
I dont buy that she went to the loo for a pee.
My thoughts.
I dont believe she got up for a pee, women of a certain age (of which I am one) get up in the night for a pee, sometime's twice. Younger women dont get up they have better bladder control. I am thinking of a couple of different scenarios
1 They were arguing, she was scared, ran to the bathroom picking up her phone off the bedside table and taking it with her to call for help.
2 She went to the loo while he was sleeping, to text or email someone possibly a man, he wasnt asleep, knew what she was up to and shot her in a jealous rage.
I dont buy that she went to the loo for a pee.
My thoughts.
Apr 10th 2014, 1:13 pm
#112
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Re: Pistorius. Guilty or not?
OK ... New ... Theory.
She was taking a noisey dump, whilst posting on BE.
She was taking a noisey dump, whilst posting on BE.
Apr 10th 2014, 1:16 pm
#113
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Re: Pistorius. Guilty or not?
The electric fans have sealed his fate.
Apr 10th 2014, 1:16 pm
#114
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Re: Pistorius. Guilty or not?
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Apr 10th 2014, 1:58 pm
#116
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Re: Pistorius. Guilty or not?
I know we had this discussion when he was first arrested but I've forgotten the answer, if/when he goes to prison presumably he goes legless?
Apr 10th 2014, 2:03 pm
#117
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Re: Pistorius. Guilty or not?
So probers won't need them.
Apr 10th 2014, 2:26 pm
#118
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Re: Pistorius. Guilty or not?
That's a good question, but I'd assume that because he already owns a pair of 'leg feet' then he would have the right to take them with him. Then again, he may need to be locked up in solitary confinement due to being 'easy white butt meat'. So probers won't need them.
So probers won't need them.
Apr 10th 2014, 2:34 pm
#119
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Apr 10th 2014, 8:54 pm
#120
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Re: Pistorius. Guilty or not?
I feel he has a right to be mobile.....you can't just take a man's legs out from under him.