Pistorius. Guilty or not?
Apr 25th 2014 | 2:02 am
#256
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Re: Pistorius. Guilty or not?
Exactly. On all counts. I am convinced he did it deliberately - but I am not convinced it has been proven beyond reasonable doubt[/B]. But - letting guns off in a café and in a car, plus shooting through a door when not under a direct threat (even if you know a machine-gun wielding murderer is waiting there) are all illegal here, and they have been pretty well proven. So 7 years should be the minimum he is facing.
Apr 25th 2014 | 7:40 am
#257
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Re: Pistorius. Guilty or not?
The first shot was lucky,he fired at her 'head',continued on when he knew she was falling,n got lucky again,2 shots killed her,enough said.
Apr 25th 2014 | 9:57 am
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Re: Pistorius. Guilty or not?
I believe he will be done for culpable homicide with a lot of neglect. There's too much reasonable doubt to go with murder.
That's the point I've been making all along and it seems like you now agree. You have as much evidence as the judge so if your gut feels he committed murder but your head says manslaughter then run with the big organ at the top of your body.
That's the point I've been making all along and it seems like you now agree. You have as much evidence as the judge so if your gut feels he committed murder but your head says manslaughter then run with the big organ at the top of your body.
Apr 25th 2014 | 10:00 am
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Re: Pistorius. Guilty or not?
Exactly. On all counts. I am convinced he did it deliberately - but I am not convinced it has been proven beyond reasonable doubt. But - letting guns off in a café and in a car, plus shooting through a door when not under a direct threat (even if you know a machine-gun wielding murderer is waiting there) are all illegal here, and they have been pretty well proven. So 7 years should be the minimum he is facing.
Apr 25th 2014 | 10:01 am
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Re: Pistorius. Guilty or not?
I believe he will be done for culpable homicide with a lot of neglect. There's too much reasonable doubt to go with murder.
That's the point I've been making all along and it seems like you now agree. You have as much evidence as the judge so if your gut feels he committed murder but your head says manslaughter then run with the big organ at the top of your body.
That's the point I've been making all along and it seems like you now agree. You have as much evidence as the judge so if your gut feels he committed murder but your head says manslaughter then run with the big organ at the top of your body.
Not the same as saying, "What do you think the outcome of the trial will be?"
Apr 25th 2014 | 10:32 am
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Re: Pistorius. Guilty or not?
True, but isn't it better to rule with your head rather than your gut especially when such lengthy sentences are involved?
Apr 25th 2014 | 10:39 am
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Re: Pistorius. Guilty or not?
Apr 25th 2014 | 10:45 am
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Re: Pistorius. Guilty or not?
Apr 25th 2014 | 11:16 am
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Re: Pistorius. Guilty or not?
1. The actual court case. What a bunch of people on the internet think has no bearing on it. It should of course be judged on the evidence.
2. If someone in a bar, or on BE, says, "Do you think Pistorius is guilty or not guilty of murder?", that's just a talking shop for 'gut feelings'.
Apr 25th 2014 | 11:58 am
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Re: Pistorius. Guilty or not?
Are you not meant to take on only the evidence that is considered admissable? Cases in the past have been lost where jurors have gone off and done their own research, and judges need to make a decision about what other evidence they are going to allow.
I understand that this is a sole judge decision, but s/he still needs to follow the rules of evidence.
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Apr 25th 2014 | 2:45 pm
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Re: Pistorius. Guilty or not?
What I meant was that there are two different approaches here:
1. The actual court case. What a bunch of people on the internet think has no bearing on it. It should of course be judged on the evidence.
2. If someone in a bar, or on BE, says, "Do you think Pistorius is guilty or not guilty of murder?", that's just a talking shop for 'gut feelings'.
1. The actual court case. What a bunch of people on the internet think has no bearing on it. It should of course be judged on the evidence.
2. If someone in a bar, or on BE, says, "Do you think Pistorius is guilty or not guilty of murder?", that's just a talking shop for 'gut feelings'.
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