Pistorius. Guilty or not?
Apr 9th 2014 | 9:07 am
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Re: Pistorius. Guilty or not?
I read* about the case a few weeks ago, while it didn't state that was the motive( hes not been goind giilty yet) he was however very jealous, always accusing her of flirting with men at party's ect and she had spoken to her best friend about how worried she was about his behaviour.
*It was a doco on the crime channel, it was very interesting. Interviewed her friends and parents put together all the events leading up to it for months before and described the relationship they'd had.
*It was a doco on the crime channel, it was very interesting. Interviewed her friends and parents put together all the events leading up to it for months before and described the relationship they'd had.
Apr 9th 2014 | 9:40 am
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Re: Pistorius. Guilty or not?
That email exchange (or whatever it was) revealed a lot about the nature of their relationship. Much more will be revealed over the next few days.
Apr 9th 2014 | 9:54 am
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Re: Pistorius. Guilty or not?
Apr 9th 2014 | 10:04 am
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Re: Pistorius. Guilty or not?
Is it enough to demonstrate beyond reasonable doubt? Is there a notion of beyond reasonable doubt in SA? Shooting a water melon or having a few jealous tiffs is hardly proving he intentionally shot her.
Apr 9th 2014 | 10:08 am
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Re: Pistorius. Guilty or not?
The bit I've never understood about his story - if you had a gun in your hand, and there was what you thought was a robber locked in the toilet - why would you shoot through the door? There's no immediate threat, and you couldn't aim for sh*t even if you were trying to kill them. Keep the bullets in case you need them and call the cops.
Alternatively, if you are in a murderous rage at your girlfriend and she is locked in the loo, at what stage would "I know, I'll shoot at her, nothing bad will come of that" enter your head?
By definition he can't of been in his right mind either way - so why didn't they go for a 'roid rage defence? He should be going down for manslaughter anyway - and it's more believable than his current story.
Alternatively, if you are in a murderous rage at your girlfriend and she is locked in the loo, at what stage would "I know, I'll shoot at her, nothing bad will come of that" enter your head?
By definition he can't of been in his right mind either way - so why didn't they go for a 'roid rage defence? He should be going down for manslaughter anyway - and it's more believable than his current story.
The law in the UK at least relating to murder and manslaughter centres around recklessness and negligence. I believe there is a test for what a 'normal' person would have done. In Uk law he would almost certainly get manslaughter. It is criminally reckless to shoot multiple times through a door when the outcome would almost certainly be serious harm and probable death.
Apr 9th 2014 | 11:38 am
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Apr 9th 2014 | 11:44 am
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Re: Pistorius. Guilty or not?
I'm also not talking about the delivery mechanism....you can always tell someone who has gleaned info from movies or books because most professionals don't talk about bullets in that context....you might say the 'bullet entered' but you wouldn't talk about 'saving bullets for'...you might...but you would out yourself as an amateur, unwilling and innocently, of course!
Apr 9th 2014 | 11:46 am
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Re: Pistorius. Guilty or not?
Whilst I was out and about in my car today I listened to his trial on the radio.
I have to say he sounded very convincing when reenacting the moment he shot his girlfriend.
So after today I've come to the conclusion he's either innocent or a damn good actor.
Has anyone else been following it? What are your thoughts?
I have to say he sounded very convincing when reenacting the moment he shot his girlfriend.
So after today I've come to the conclusion he's either innocent or a damn good actor.
Has anyone else been following it? What are your thoughts?
Apr 9th 2014 | 12:52 pm
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I'm also not talking about the delivery mechanism....you can always tell someone who has gleaned info from movies or books because most professionals don't talk about bullets in that context....you might say the 'bullet entered' but you wouldn't talk about 'saving bullets for'...you might...but you would out yourself as an amateur, unwilling and innocently, of course!
Apr 9th 2014 | 1:13 pm
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Re: Pistorius. Guilty or not?
This case is different as it is so high profile and the world is watching. If the people involved were not celebrities, we would never have heard a thing
Apr 9th 2014 | 2:56 pm
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Re: Pistorius. Guilty or not?
Even today, despite what the law says, the sytem is very much in favour of the homeowner/resident. Basically, if someone is in your home unlawfully and you waste them, the cops are going to take your side. Hell, in most cases it wouldn't even make page 20 pf the papers - it's the way this kind of shit goes down over there
This case is different as it is so high profile and the world is watching. If the people involved were not celebrities, we would never have heard a thing
This case is different as it is so high profile and the world is watching. If the people involved were not celebrities, we would never have heard a thing
