Perhaps an insane question...but why exactly are you leaving?
Apr 4th 2009, 10:25 pm
#166
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Apr 4th 2009, 10:30 pm
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Re: Perhaps an insane question...but why exactly are you leaving?
Fair point well made Wol. However many of the nations left behind by Empire are dogged by poverty, ill-health and seperatist factions hell-bent on usurping any kind of democratic legacy for their own ends.
Afghanistan and Pakistan are prime examples. Uganda, Burma and Zimbabwe can hardly be held up as models of democracy with a middle class that administers and organises.
If we look at legacies to other nations of earth then we can be proud of the industrial revolution and all the benefits that has brought to the world. What we cannot be proud of is the cost in human suffering, still being perpetrated today as a result of Empire, most notably in the aforementioned countries.
I added the paragraphs in an attempt to assuage Hutch's abhorrence of my grammatical omissons
Afghanistan and Pakistan are prime examples. Uganda, Burma and Zimbabwe can hardly be held up as models of democracy with a middle class that administers and organises.
If we look at legacies to other nations of earth then we can be proud of the industrial revolution and all the benefits that has brought to the world. What we cannot be proud of is the cost in human suffering, still being perpetrated today as a result of Empire, most notably in the aforementioned countries.
I added the paragraphs in an attempt to assuage Hutch's abhorrence of my grammatical omissons
Apr 4th 2009, 10:31 pm
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Apr 4th 2009, 10:39 pm
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Re: Perhaps an insane question...but why exactly are you leaving?
'Suppose it wouldn't be wise at this point to mention that most historians have now largely discounted the past existance of any 'Celtic' nations - generally the Celts are seen as a rather romantic notion, whereas the real people who inhabited Britain at that time were disparate groups of Iron Age settlers. The 'Celts' (as such) basically came from India and the Middle East, created a strong settlement in Turkey, spread across Europe to Spain and then scattered and blended with local communities. That's why the English language is an Anglo-Indian derivative.
Wikipedia -
An ethnic group is a group of human beings whose members identify with each other, through a common heritage that is real or presumed. Ethnic identity is further marked by the recognition from others of a group's distinctiveness and the recognition of common cultural, linguistic, religious, behavioral or biological traits real or presumed, as indicators of contrast to other groups.
If you want to look into genealogy we are all african, ultimately.
Apr 4th 2009, 10:43 pm
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Re: Perhaps an insane question...but why exactly are you leaving?
Apr 4th 2009, 10:45 pm
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Re: Perhaps an insane question...but why exactly are you leaving?
Wikipedia -
An ethnic group is a group of human beings whose members identify with each other, through a common heritage that is real or presumed. Ethnic identity is further marked by the recognition from others of a group's distinctiveness and the recognition of common cultural, linguistic, religious, behavioral or biological traits real or presumed, as indicators of contrast to other groups.
If you want to look into genealogy we are all african, ultimately.
An ethnic group is a group of human beings whose members identify with each other, through a common heritage that is real or presumed. Ethnic identity is further marked by the recognition from others of a group's distinctiveness and the recognition of common cultural, linguistic, religious, behavioral or biological traits real or presumed, as indicators of contrast to other groups.
If you want to look into genealogy we are all african, ultimately.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scottish_people
Apr 4th 2009, 10:52 pm
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Apr 4th 2009, 10:58 pm
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Apr 4th 2009, 11:39 pm
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Apr 4th 2009, 11:55 pm
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Re: Perhaps an insane question...but why exactly are you leaving?
I do believe we have gone slightly off topic 
Apr 5th 2009, 12:31 am
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Re: Perhaps an insane question...but why exactly are you leaving?
Apr 5th 2009, 1:15 am
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Re: Perhaps an insane question...but why exactly are you leaving?
'Suppose it wouldn't be wise at this point to mention that most historians have now largely discounted the past existance of any 'Celtic' nations - generally the Celts are seen as a rather romantic notion, whereas the real people who inhabited Britain at that time were disparate groups of Iron Age settlers. The 'Celts' (as such) basically came from India and the Middle East, created a strong settlement in Turkey, spread across Europe to Spain and then scattered and blended with local communities. That's why the English language is an Anglo-Indian derivative.
