Margaret Thatcher is dead
Apr 15th 2013 | 1:41 pm
#391
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Re: Margaret Thatcher is dead
What's taking you so long Guys? Anyway, I'm off to the supermarket!
Apr 15th 2013 | 1:49 pm
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Re: Margaret Thatcher is dead
She was one of the 20th Century's titans 
We owe her a lot
We owe her a lot
Apr 15th 2013 | 2:15 pm
#393
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Re: Margaret Thatcher is dead
A preposterous judgement. Am I to deduce that you're currently wearing a cloth cap and stroking a whippet because you hate Thatcher?
Apr 15th 2013 | 2:15 pm
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Re: Margaret Thatcher is dead
(What is this more class warfare?!
)If we are going to make this class warfare, just remember that the private sector makes redundant hoards of middle class people year in year out but because they can negotiate for themselves they seek alternate employment.
If they were locked into a trade union they would lose this sense of ownership, this motivation to take control of their lives.
Thatcher went after the headshed in the unions and industries that were doomed to fail.
I can't believe people are still complaining 25 years after - the UK has since come out of recession and enjoyed massive prosperity for many years which everyone, it seemed, benefited from. I don't hear people complain about Thacher day to day, I hear them whinge about the tiniest details in their lives which wouldn't have come about without all the technology and growth.
Apr 15th 2013 | 5:47 pm
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Re: Margaret Thatcher is dead
Double standards would hardly describe it.
Apr 15th 2013 | 5:53 pm
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Re: Margaret Thatcher is dead
I guess that's a matter of opinion. So I'll adjust my original post to "in my opinion, the celebrations of her death have done the UK no favours at all"
Her rule went a long way in wrecking Manchester, my home city, for a generation... but I still wouldn't dance on her grave. What the Hell ever happened to common decency?
Her rule went a long way in wrecking Manchester, my home city, for a generation... but I still wouldn't dance on her grave. What the Hell ever happened to common decency?
A privitised funeral arangement by all means paid by her corporate admirers. Otherwise the same procedure as all other former PMs after their demise.
Atlee who done far more than her for the nation had a very humble send off.
Apr 15th 2013 | 6:00 pm
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Re: Margaret Thatcher is dead
There were bigger cold war fish to fry at that time and toppling apartheid in favour of a soviet-sponsored organisation, would have given control of the strategic Cape of Good Hope sea route to the Soviet Union. Plus risking triggering off white flight in a country that had well over a million people entitled to live and work in the UK and at a time when Britain was still struggling to pull itself up by it's bootstraps would have been unwise. Note how as soon as the cold war ended, efforts immediately were set into motion to peacefully resolve South Africa's problems.
Apr 15th 2013 | 6:08 pm
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Re: Margaret Thatcher is dead
As others have pointed out:
a) you don't do this for someone the tories would like to whitewash as a shining light (they are certainly not being restrained in their praise of her, given how hated she is - imagine what a silent public would result in).
b) her family are as bad, or worse. Their feelings can afford to get hurt - I'd guess they have very thick hides (as well as heads)
c) she shed no tears for the families who's lives she ruined on an ideology, without a thought for building rather than destruction.
I'm actually of the opinion that she could have rescued her 'legacy' by apologising for her crass, destructive, actions. People are generally more warm hearted than her, and would have put those crimes aside. She never did.
a) you don't do this for someone the tories would like to whitewash as a shining light (they are certainly not being restrained in their praise of her, given how hated she is - imagine what a silent public would result in).
b) her family are as bad, or worse. Their feelings can afford to get hurt - I'd guess they have very thick hides (as well as heads)
c) she shed no tears for the families who's lives she ruined on an ideology, without a thought for building rather than destruction.
I'm actually of the opinion that she could have rescued her 'legacy' by apologising for her crass, destructive, actions. People are generally more warm hearted than her, and would have put those crimes aside. She never did.
Problem being of course, is that she came to believe the myth around her that she was the saviour of Britain along Churchillian lines.
Her failings are so many and obvious a funeral as such is a snub at the massive devision created. The Queen seems to think as much as well.
Apr 15th 2013 | 6:11 pm
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Re: Margaret Thatcher is dead
Like the Falklands, our war (my war) agains the Communists in Angola/Namibia was one of the many factors that contributed to the end of the USSR and the Cold War
Apr 15th 2013 | 6:14 pm
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Apr 15th 2013 | 6:18 pm
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Apr 15th 2013 | 6:25 pm
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Apr 15th 2013 | 6:31 pm
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Apr 15th 2013 | 6:34 pm
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Re: Margaret Thatcher is dead
So what did Thatcher do for Scotland?
