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Old Oct 7th 2009 | 9:18 pm
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Originally Posted by kporte
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Just saying, I think the Scots may be more offended if they knew just how little they were thought of. I visisted Scotland as a teenager and it seemed like ten minutes down the road. I didnt realise we were worlds apart but I do live in a bubble so I cant speak for England.
 
Old Oct 7th 2009 | 9:24 pm
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Just saying, I think the Scots may be more offended if they knew just how little they were thought of. I visisted Scotland as a teenager and it seemed like ten minutes down the road. I didnt realise we were worlds apart but I do live in a bubble so I cant speak for England.
Like the paranoid who thinks everyone is talking about them but they are discussing the cricket..... Scots can be very paranoid. Most Scots don't have issues but the vocal minority are beginning to queer our patch....
 
Old Oct 7th 2009 | 9:28 pm
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Originally Posted by kporte
Like the paranoid who thinks everyone is talking about them but they are discussing the cricket..... Scots can be very paranoid. Most Scots don't have issues but the vocal minority are beginning to queer our patch....
Well, maybe the sooner youre all back to throwing dung out your bedroom windows, the better?!

Just stirring.

Most English arent comfortable unless theyre being despised by the underclasses.
 
Old Oct 7th 2009 | 9:34 pm
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Originally Posted by Officer Dibble
Well, maybe the sooner youre all back to throwing dung out your bedroom windows, the better?!

Just stirring.

Most English arent comfortable unless theyre being despised by the underclasses.
It does seem like we fit the roles we feel good in. Scots LOVE to whinge about the English. The English just like whinging in general though///
 
Old Oct 7th 2009 | 9:36 pm
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Originally Posted by kporte
If black people had previously made slaves of whites and made us sit at the back of the bus, or lynched white people for being "uppity" then yes, I would.
Context matters.
I get your point but maybe the label should more correctly be "insensitive". Certainly not "racist".

IMO, The only adjustment that needs to be made is such TV programmes should pre-warn people with "Warning, this programme contains material which may offend". Similar to the "harsh language" warning which we often see/hear.

And we should all try harder to not register offence if it's unintended - in the same context as everyone accepts Irish, women, men and other jokes.
 
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Originally Posted by kporte
It does seem like we fit the roles we feel good in. Scots LOVE to whinge about the English. The English just like whinging in general though///
Yep, a good whinge is good for the bladder.
 
Old Oct 7th 2009 | 9:54 pm
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Originally Posted by FluffieFaerie
I know Australia is notoriously racist
Wow - that is a big statement.
Know any Australians who have views like the BNP? Know their history and all the political firsts they came up with?
Know many Australians???
They really tend to write off people who talk in stereotypes.
Im curious - Do they listen politely to your clever witticisms and then you never seem to see them again?
You might be falling fowl of a truly vicious Australian racism - they categorise people as #@&%'s and non-#@&%'s and race, money, class etc doesnt seem to have much to do with it.
 
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Originally Posted by ger111
Know any Australians who have views like the BNP?
I don't know any...but I have had the mispleasure of meeting of them. Getting trapped sitting next to a card carrying member of One Nation at a BBQ is probably a fairly similar experience to your average BNP member.
 
Old Oct 7th 2009 | 10:16 pm
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Originally Posted by ger111
Wow - that is a big statement.
Know any Australians who have views like the BNP? Know their history and all the political firsts they came up with?
Know many Australians???
They really tend to write off people who talk in stereotypes.
Im curious - Do they listen politely to your clever witticisms and then you never seem to see them again?
You might be falling fowl of a truly vicious Australian racism - they categorise people as #@&%'s and non-#@&%'s and race, money, class etc doesnt seem to have much to do with it.
I really don't view Aussies as racist. The fact they seem quite open and unreserved can be a fault in the eyes of non-Australians
The "Paki" thing is an example. In Britain this is clearly racist, here, not.
It's all about how words are meant and this is down to interpretation. You can label anyone a racist if you try hard enough. Also, the word racism has changed in meaning over time. It is overused and hackneyed in some ways.
How POM can be construed as racist is a good example.
 
Old Oct 7th 2009 | 10:23 pm
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I don't know any...but I have had the mispleasure of meeting of them. Getting trapped sitting next to a card carrying member of One Nation at a BBQ is probably a fairly similar experience to your average BNP member.
I once attended a barbeque on a remote farm in pre 1994 South Africa where (as it turned out) dozens of disgruntled national intelligence operatives had also been invited. It scared the living daylights out of me.
 
Old Oct 7th 2009 | 10:27 pm
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Originally Posted by bcworld
I don't know any...but I have had the mispleasure of meeting of them. Getting trapped sitting next to a card carrying member of One Nation at a BBQ is probably a fairly similar experience to your average BNP member.
I think most countries will have their BNP equivalents. Racism, homophobia etc is not exclusive to the UK, nor would I imagine, is the UK the best at it.
 
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Originally Posted by kporte
I think most countries will have their BNP equivalents. Racism, homophobia etc is not exclusive to the UK, nor would I imagine, is the UK the best at it.
The UK is one of the least racist counties in the world, something which we should be proud of.
 
Old Oct 7th 2009 | 11:25 pm
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Originally Posted by paulry
The UK is one of the least racist counties in the world, something which we should be proud of.
People aren't proud enough in general about Britain.
 
Old Oct 7th 2009 | 11:34 pm
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Originally Posted by kporte
People aren't proud enough in general about Britain.
I've never quite understood that. Other countries hoist their national flag in their gardens, the kids sing their anthem at school there are bank holidays dedicated to national pride but the UK has none of that. The general public don't even celebrate the queen's birthday. The silver jubilee was a rare exception where a sense of being proudly British was everywhere, what a year that was!
 
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Originally Posted by paulry
I've never quite understood that. Other countries hoist their national flag in their gardens, the kids sing their anthem at school there are bank holidays dedicated to national pride but the UK has none of that. The general public don't even celebrate the queen's birthday. The silver jubilee was a rare exception where a sense of being proudly British was everywhere, what a year that was!
Brits slag off Aussies for being patriotic. Of all the things they pick on, this mystifies me.
 


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