Invaded or settled?
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Re: Invaded or settled?
As for where the aborigines might be without the British invasion and occupation... it's futile to wonder, and merely an academic speculation. I doubt if they're better off, but it doesn't matter. It makes no sense to bewail invasions that happened a long time in the past.
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Re: Invaded or settled?
Again with the left-v-right foolishness. To the best of my learning, the pre-British inhabitants of Australia had indeed been invaders and settlers (both) themselves, having invaded and largely eliminated the race that has become known as "Tasmanian" aborigines. There were two distinct races and cultures there, before the British.
As for where the aborigines might be without the British invasion and occupation... it's futile to wonder, and merely an academic speculation. I doubt if they're better off, but it doesn't matter. It makes no sense to bewail invasions that happened a long time in the past.
As for where the aborigines might be without the British invasion and occupation... it's futile to wonder, and merely an academic speculation. I doubt if they're better off, but it doesn't matter. It makes no sense to bewail invasions that happened a long time in the past.
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Re: Invaded or settled?
Who cares really? We can't change two centuries of history. And we should not be made to feel guilty for what happened to the indigenous peoples 200 years ago.
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Re: Invaded or settled?
Hi swerve.
Re;
" It saved me pointing it out "
I agree, the quotation did come from you.
OOPS!
Norm.
Re;
" It saved me pointing it out "
I agree, the quotation did come from you.
OOPS!
Norm.
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Re: Invaded or settled?
Nocookies | The Australian
I know that this has been blown out of proportion and that as a socialist, Queensland's premier hates Australia, but it's sad that Australia was 'invaded' is an official viewpoint of a major university - although I'm sure that their students can, and should, make their own minds up
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Revisionist history is one of the reasons why I detest the left
I know that this has been blown out of proportion and that as a socialist, Queensland's premier hates Australia, but it's sad that Australia was 'invaded' is an official viewpoint of a major university - although I'm sure that their students can, and should, make their own minds up
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Revisionist history is one of the reasons why I detest the left
You really should learn to treat The Australian with a degree of disdain.
Now what isn't cool is the comment above of course.
The answer being invasion and hostile occupation being the reality, no matter how it grates on the sensibilities of the Right.
The doctrine of Terra Nullius, has been shown by the High Court of Australia, hardly a lefty outfit, to be nothing but legal fiction.
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Re: Invaded or settled?
Well once the past history has been at least acknowledged, there may well be room to move on.
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Re: Invaded or settled?
I think students should make up their own minds about how to view the world too. I also think that those that actually really take the time to objectively look at Australia's history will come to see Australia as both invaded AND settled.
Being interested in looking at history not as a string of "facts" but as stories told and stories omitted and being interested in how the world looks when the omitted stories are told is one of the reasons I love the left; thinking is good
Being interested in looking at history not as a string of "facts" but as stories told and stories omitted and being interested in how the world looks when the omitted stories are told is one of the reasons I love the left; thinking is good
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Re: Invaded or settled?
You really should learn to treat The Australian with a degree of disdain.
Now what isn't cool is the comment above of course.
The answer being invasion and hostile occupation being the reality, no matter how it grates on the sensibilities of the Right.
The doctrine of Terra Nullius, has been shown by the High Court of Australia, hardly a lefty outfit, to be nothing but legal fiction.
Now what isn't cool is the comment above of course.
The answer being invasion and hostile occupation being the reality, no matter how it grates on the sensibilities of the Right.
The doctrine of Terra Nullius, has been shown by the High Court of Australia, hardly a lefty outfit, to be nothing but legal fiction.
Colonisation rocks
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Re: Invaded or settled?
I believe some treatment like the "stolen generation" have been formally recognised. Colonisation itself will never be as there's no one to apologise to nor nothing to apologise for.