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Old Mar 30th 2016, 12:57 pm
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I know that this has been blown out of proportion and that as a socialist, Queensland's premier hates Australia, but it's sad that Australia was 'invaded' is an official viewpoint of a major university - although I'm sure that their students can, and should, make their own minds up

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Originally Posted by Amazulu
Nocookies | The Australian

I know that this has been blown out of proportion and that as a socialist, Queensland's premier hates Australia, but it's sad that Australia was 'invaded' is an official viewpoint of a major university - although I'm sure that their students can, and should, make their own minds up

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Originally Posted by Amazulu
Nocookies | The Australian

I know that this has been blown out of proportion and that as a socialist, Queensland's premier hates Australia, but it's sad that Australia was 'invaded' is an official viewpoint of a major university - although I'm sure that their students can, and should, make their own minds up

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Cant read article, it's a subscriber only article.
Try the ABC one

Queensland Premier praised for 'invasion' stance in Australian history for Indigenous people - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)



Let me know if that is subscriber too - we are logged in to most of these automatically at work so I can't tell.
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Bet they're glad they weren't invaded by the Chinese, Japanese, Portuguese or any of the other sundry possibles, things would look rather (and not so nicely) different if they were. PC manipulation at its very best.
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Originally Posted by Amazulu
Nocookies | The Australian

I know that this has been blown out of proportion and that as a socialist, Queensland's premier hates Australia, but it's sad that Australia was 'invaded' is an official viewpoint of a major university - although I'm sure that their students can, and should, make their own minds up

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Typical academics.

The hypocrisy of the lefties. They don't like white people and abuse the word in "invade" but hate the "stop the people sumuggling" policy and think that type of invasion should be accepted.
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Typical academics.

The hypocrisy of the lefties. They don't like white people and abuse the word in "invade" but hate the "stop the people sumuggling" policy and think that type of invasion should be accepted.
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Originally Posted by Amazulu
Nocookies | The Australian

I know that this has been blown out of proportion and that as a socialist, Queensland's premier hates Australia, but it's sad that Australia was 'invaded' is an official viewpoint of a major university - although I'm sure that their students can, and should, make their own minds up

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I really don't see how Cook arriving in a rowing boat and the leaving again can be considered an invasion.

Arguably, the arrival of the first fleet may well be considered an invasion - though not really falling within the dictionary definition - it was generally appropriation of territory under force of arms, just not from any defined or identified geopolitical entity.

But whether or not it was is neither here nor there TBH - it was what it was, and is the reality of history, as has been the case for hundreds of countries and territories across the globe throughout history.

Personally, I prefer the term colonisation - as it reflects both the political ideology of Empire and the actual activity of the time.


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Originally Posted by Swerv-o
I really don't see how Cook arriving in a rowing boat and the leaving again can be considered an invasion.

Arguably, the arrival of the first fleet may well be considered an invasion - though not really falling within the dictionary definition - it was generally appropriation of territory under force of arms, just not from any defined or identified geopolitical entity.

But whether or not it was is neither here nor there TBH - it was what it was, and is the reality of history, as has been the case for hundreds of countries and territories across the globe throughout history.

Personally, I prefer the term colonisation - as it reflects both the political ideology of Empire and the actual activity of the time.


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Good post. If Australia was invaded then all colonisation and settlement since the beginning of time is also invasion - which is nonsense
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Originally Posted by Amazulu
Good post. If Australia was invaded then all colonisation and settlement since the beginning of time is also invasion - which is nonsense
Typical left wing academic nonsense.
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Typical left wing academic nonsense.
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I like the uni that I go to as most of the academics come across as pretty capitalist and right-wing
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..... and someone bangs on about the right being the destroyers.

Well if there's anyone seeking to destroy and divide its the left wing academics and the minority groups.

http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/tv/morning-shows/sunrise-youre-a-bunch-of-racist-cts-singer-thelma-plum-slams-sunrise/news-story/a89d4cacad7a31c0946bf7f8afc17778
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Originally Posted by Amazulu
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I like the uni that I go to as most of the academics come across as pretty capitalist and right-wing
No weiry beardies then?

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Originally Posted by Pollyana
Try the ABC one

Queensland Premier praised for 'invasion' stance in Australian history for Indigenous people - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)



Let me know if that is subscriber too - we are logged in to most of these automatically at work so I can't tell.
That one's OK, thanks.
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