Re: I cannot believe Oz is as bad as this.
 

It's not standard practise by any means, I don't think there will be lots of employers doing it and I'm not entirely sure if it's paid to the factory workers. I think it's just paid to the maintenance staff and Managers.

I always think of my work collegues who have to do my share of work as well as mine. I know I hated it when people rang in sick cos I usually ended up doing their jobs :mad:

I've only ever worked for two companies and both of them paid really naff wages, were long unsociable hours and always kept trying to find 'cuts' everywhere, so really I didn't give a monkeys about them ;)

Re: I cannot believe Oz is as bad as this.
 

Not really a sensible comparison, seeing as that's about 4000km. London to Moscow is only about 2500km, and very few people would contemplate driving that. If you drive a distance that makes more sense to fly, then clearly it is going to take a ridiculously long time to do it.

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In alot of quite nice areas, it will buy you a lovely house. Just like mine!!


But isnt that the same the world over? Its like saying Bendigo, where I live doesnt have the same problems Melbourne has and doesnt that suggest that it isnt a problem with Australia, just certain areas of Australia??? :confused:

Just pointing this out as people seem to forget that every place has its good and bad....

Re: I cannot believe Oz is as bad as this.
 

Well, it is.

Not everywhere, of course - but there is no doubt that you will find exactly the same sort of problems Down Under.

They're just more evenly distributed, that's all.

Re: I cannot believe Oz is as bad as this.
 

Exactly ,its not a sensible comparison ,just like saying it takes ages or forever to get anywhere in the uk its bulldust and is just another reason to whinge and another reason to want to leave .I never have any trouble getting anywhere i want in the uk by car .These people are just trying to quantify their decision to leave the uk ,i say just get on with it and youll see things are no differnt here than there but what will be different will be how your heart feels ,now that is a different story and i can assure you you wont be giving a monkeys about the weather and the traffic jams when you get homesick .
I believe you are wrong to believe not many people contemplate driving those distances ,i do and many others do its the ones in the uk who dont contemplate doing it beacuse they are capable of getting cheap fares in europe .

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Plus driving anywhere thousands of km from the UK would mean getting at least one ferry (or eurotunnel), switching sides of the road, going across multiple borders and probably lots of languages & time zones. So it would be more complex than Perth to Sydney.
I still think that the vast majority of people would fly rather than drive distances of thousands of km. (Obviously unless they are transporting a lorry-load of stuff, or deliberately doing it as a holiday/scenic drive)

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All I can say such and such, sorry sassenach is that you could not have gone anywhere in the U.K by car. You are talking absolute crap. Did you just do a 9 to 5 job a couple of miles from home. Anyone who travels with their job or anyone who has half a brain knows the U.K has a bad problem with traffic including the politicians.
It was a whinge but thats human beings, we moan about our jobs e.t.c day to day problems.
I recently got to Portugal in 5 hours door to door and it can take me 1 hour to get to Northampton which is 21 miles WTF?.

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In Sassenach's defence, it is not true to say that ALL journeys in the UK are plagued by terrible traffic. I used to travel about 25 min to work & back (until just before xmas), from one town in to another, and I rarely hit what I would call bad traffic. Yes you expect town to be busy at rush hour - so what? Not the end of the world.
Yes the UK has traffic issues in some places and at some times - name a country that doesn't!

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Hi NKSK.

Thats a good point.

The fact is it tells you a lot about the state of mind of the people of Britain.I have taken a little bit of stick which I can take but people have not read my post properly. Hello :rolleyes: I do not hate the U.K or think that Australia is utopia
A lot of people return to the U.K but they also leave again. Some people moan whatever.My old buisness partner used to run down the U.K and moved to Spain only to want to return. England is good but not great anymore.
The likes of Sassenach and Arkon left the U.K and moaned on about it and they have done nothing more than moaned about Australia, if the U.K is so good in their eyes then get back here. They epitomise the whingeing pom in every way.

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Spain and Portugal.
I went to both places this year and could not believe how easy it was to get around, Lisbon was a real pleasant suprise.Yes Barcelona will be busy but I am on about the day to day traffic in the average area and not just rush hour.
The U.K is overcrowded in every way and I see little argument against that.

Re: I cannot believe Oz is as bad as this.
 

I can't comment on Portugal but I'd eat my hat if they don't have jams in some places on a regular basis. Spain certainly does.

Day to day traffic in many areas in the UK is not a problem.

Whilst I agree that the UK is crowded in many senses, and does have a high population in relation to its landmass, there are also some lovely open spaces. Lots of beautiful coastline, not built-up, and moors & open farmland and forests - it all depends where you are and what you're doing. Scotland & Wales have some truly stunning scenery. You can't say that Scotland is overcrowded!

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I agree and I said in a previous post that the U.K has some of the worlds most beautiful scenery.
I am talking day to day. I have been to Scotland on holiday and there are not a lot of jobs in a lot of those quiet areas. Ireland is my favourite place out of all my holiday destinations including Australia but who wants to live with a family with no work prospects.
This thread is getting a bit silly as I am talking about the day to day frustrations of many people in the U.K.
We are overpopulated and overcrowded in the U.K and I am sorry but no one will convince me differently.

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no i did a 8 -430 job ,and on a regular basis drove from bournemouth to hedge end ,with no problems and that is a main arterial motorway to london and then on fridays up to the midlands in the afternoon and sure i hit a bit of traffic and may have had to have sat around for an hour ,Big deal .I aint talking crap its what i experienced last year for 4 months so i believe your just making a drama out of nothing,Sure its got more traffic than aussie that is to be expected but i never found it a drama its just another case of whinging .

Re: I cannot believe Oz is as bad as this.
 

I think you are talking about your day to day frustrations - which is fine, and perfectly valid, but not necessarily true for everyone.
Plenty of people live day to day without experiencing daily traffic jams, & regularly travel through & enjoy beautiful countryside - not just on holiday.
It all depends on where you are and what you are doing.

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Typical Aussie Wannabee ,hand in your brit passport at the home office why dont ya ,britain doesnt want or need people like you .You arnt here yet and your full of crap .