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Funky Monkey Jan 14th 2007 8:58 am

Re: I cannot believe Oz is as bad as this.
 

Originally Posted by sassenach (Post 4284127)
Typical Aussie Wannabee ,hand in your brit passport at the home office why dont ya ,britain doesnt want or need people like you .You arnt here yet and your full of crap .

Thats the difference between me and you - you are there and full of crap.:)

northernbird Jan 14th 2007 9:02 am

Re: I cannot believe Oz is as bad as this.
 

Originally Posted by Funky Monkey (Post 4284035)
Hi NKSK.

Thats a good point.

The fact is it tells you a lot about the state of mind of the people of Britain.I have taken a little bit of stick which I can take but people have not read my post properly. Hello :rolleyes: I do not hate the U.K or think that Australia is utopia
A lot of people return to the U.K but they also leave again. Some people moan whatever.My old buisness partner used to run down the U.K and moved to Spain only to want to return. England is good but not great anymore.
The likes of Sassenach and Arkon left the U.K and moaned on about it and they have done nothing more than moaned about Australia, if the U.K is so good in their eyes then get back here. They epitomise the whingeing pom in every way.

Arkon has had his fair share of battles though I have to say, he chose to live in country NSW for a start which by his own admission hasn't helped. He may not have had such a bad experience if he had moved to a city suburb. I think Arkon can see it from other peoples point of view and accept others opinions though that Australia will work for some and not others and the same goes for UK.

Australia has the same problems as England so don't kid yourself.

Babycatcher Jan 14th 2007 9:05 am

Re: I cannot believe Oz is as bad as this.
 

Originally Posted by fastrhino (Post 4280650)
wheres the poles, lativians and all the other chancers on those statistics, not to metion the hundreds that are in bolton illegaly

why don't you save the 'get at the imigrants' for another thread - I might well be one soon and I hope that I will be treated more respectfully :(

Funky Monkey Jan 14th 2007 9:07 am

Re: I cannot believe Oz is as bad as this.
 

Originally Posted by northernbird (Post 4284159)
Arkon has had his fair share of battles though I have to say, he chose to live in country NSW for a start which by his own admission hasn't helped. He may not have had such a bad experience if he had moved to a city suburb. I think Arkon can see it from other peoples point of view and accept others opinions though that Australia will work for some and not others and the same goes for UK.

Australia has the same problems as England so don't kid yourself.

Hi Northernbird. Thats my point exactly, I am not kidding myself as you will know if you read my posts. I just feel that Australia can offer me a better way of life at the moment. I do not plan to live there forever and never have. People have just lost their way with this post and it has turned into the usual Oz versus U.K rant.
Take care.
BTW do you not love Gordon anymore.

sassenach Jan 14th 2007 9:07 am

Re: I cannot believe Oz is as bad as this.
 

Originally Posted by Funky Monkey (Post 4284097)
I agree and I said in a previous post that the U.K has some of the worlds most beautiful scenery.
I am talking day to day. I have been to Scotland on holiday and there are not a lot of jobs in a lot of those quiet areas. Ireland is my favourite place out of all my holiday destinations including Australia but who wants to live with a family with no work prospects.
This thread is getting a bit silly as I am talking about the day to day frustrations of many people in the U.K.
We are overpopulated and overcrowded in the U.K and I am sorry but no one will convince me differently.

Over populated my arse ,go and google a bit and youll find australia is in parts as over popullated as the uk in the citys ,that is unless you got some hair brained idea of living in a donga in the middle of the bush ,then sure youll be able to drive where ever you want ,shout when ever you want .
Prospects are all about application ,if you can apply yourself you can make it anywhere if you arnt making it in the uk in the boom times you arnt going to make it any better in the boom times in aussie .
I dont think really you quiet understand Australia is the same in every way to the uk ,it has the same social problems etc etc ,money problems etc etc you talk about the uk as if its finished and the day to day dramas are all to much and no prospects it is exactly the same shite i was saying 16 years ago ,the only difference was we was in a recession then and the recession was worse here with interest rates up to 18% and no work ,it took me 6 months to get 2 weeks work and we lived in a tent for 8 months .
If you have a varied life in the uk ie travel around a bit .get away a couple of times to europe ,like go for country walks ,visiting historical places ,and look forward to weekends and have a few laughs with your long time mates be prepared to sacrifice all of that for a 5 and half to six day week in hot weather with only the beach on asunday to break the monotony .If you like the idea of that then good luck to in aussie .

esperanza Jan 14th 2007 9:10 am

Re: I cannot believe Oz is as bad as this.
 

Originally Posted by sassenach (Post 4284176)
Australia is the same in every way to the uk

Similar in many ways, perhaps, but surely not the same in every way.




5 and half to six day week in hot weather with only the beach on asunday to break the monotony .If you like the idea of that then good luck to in aussie .
Yes I love it!! :D

Funky Monkey Jan 14th 2007 9:12 am

Re: I cannot believe Oz is as bad as this.
 

Originally Posted by sassenach (Post 4284176)
Over populated my arse ,go and google a bit and youll find australia is in parts as over popullated as the uk in the citys ,that is unless you got some hair brained idea of living in a donga in the middle of the bush ,then sure youll be able to drive where ever you want ,shout when ever you want .
Prospects are all about application ,if you can apply yourself you can make it anywhere if you arnt making it in the uk in the boom times you arnt going to make it any better in the boom times in aussie .
I dont think really you quiet understand Australia is the same in every way to the uk ,it has the same social problems etc etc ,money problems etc etc you talk about the uk as if its finished and the day to day dramas are all to much and no prospects it is exactly the same shite i was saying 16 years ago ,the only difference was we was in a recession then and the recession was worse here with interest rates up to 18% and no work ,it took me 6 months to get 2 weeks work and we lived in a tent for 8 months .
If you have a varied life in the uk ie travel around a bit .get away a couple of times to europe ,like go for country walks ,visiting historical places ,and look forward to weekends and have a few laughs with your long time mates be prepared to sacrifice all of that for a 5 and half to six day week in hot weather with only the beach on asunday to break the monotony .If you like the idea of that then good luck to in aussie .

Hi sassenach and I am sorry for the sarcasm.
My gripe with a lot of users on here is that they quickly shoot a lot of people down but quickly forget why they wanted to move to Oz themselves.
Again read my posts - no ill feeling:)

northernbird Jan 14th 2007 9:16 am

Re: I cannot believe Oz is as bad as this.
 

Originally Posted by sassenach (Post 4284176)
Over populated my arse ,go and google a bit and youll find australia is in parts as over popullated as the uk in the citys ,that is unless you got some hair brained idea of living in a donga in the middle of the bush ,then sure youll be able to drive where ever you want ,shout when ever you want .
Prospects are all about application ,if you can apply yourself you can make it anywhere if you arnt making it in the uk in the boom times you arnt going to make it any better in the boom times in aussie .
I dont think really you quiet understand Australia is the same in every way to the uk ,it has the same social problems etc etc ,money problems etc etc you talk about the uk as if its finished and the day to day dramas are all to much and no prospects it is exactly the same shite i was saying 16 years ago ,the only difference was we was in a recession then and the recession was worse here with interest rates up to 18% and no work ,it took me 6 months to get 2 weeks work and we lived in a tent for 8 months .
If you have a varied life in the uk ie travel around a bit .get away a couple of times to europe ,like go for country walks ,visiting historical places ,and look forward to weekends and have a few laughs with your long time mates be prepared to sacrifice all of that for a 5 and half to six day week in hot weather with only the beach on asunday to break the monotony .If you like the idea of that then good luck to in aussie .

Excellent post.

arkon Jan 14th 2007 9:23 am

Re: I cannot believe Oz is as bad as this.
 

Originally Posted by Funky Monkey (Post 4284186)
Hi sassenach and I am sorry for the sarcasm.
My gripe with a lot of users on here is that they quickly shoot a lot of people down but quickly forget why they wanted to move to Oz themselves.
Again read my posts - no ill feeling:)

Thing is Funky Monkey is we do remember why we came here in the first place, probably all the same reasons you and your fellow "waiting to get here" mob do. I now understand my thoughts then much better now in the cold light of the reality of trying both places. All those bad things I left the UK for by and large didn't directly affect me so why were they so important at the time. It can only be to help justify the move.

Hopefull Jan 14th 2007 9:30 am

Re: I cannot believe Oz is as bad as this.
 

Originally Posted by sassenach (Post 4284176)
Over populated my arse ,go and google a bit and youll find australia is in parts as over popullated as the uk in the citys ,that is unless you got some hair brained idea of living in a donga in the middle of the bush ,then sure youll be able to drive where ever you want ,shout when ever you want .
Prospects are all about application ,if you can apply yourself you can make it anywhere if you arnt making it in the uk in the boom times you arnt going to make it any better in the boom times in aussie .
I dont think really you quiet understand Australia is the same in every way to the uk ,it has the same social problems etc etc ,money problems etc etc you talk about the uk as if its finished and the day to day dramas are all to much and no prospects it is exactly the same shite i was saying 16 years ago ,the only difference was we was in a recession then and the recession was worse here with interest rates up to 18% and no work ,it took me 6 months to get 2 weeks work and we lived in a tent for 8 months .
If you have a varied life in the uk ie travel around a bit .get away a couple of times to europe ,like go for country walks ,visiting historical places ,and look forward to weekends and have a few laughs with your long time mates be prepared to sacrifice all of that for a 5 and half to six day week in hot weather with only the beach on asunday to break the monotony .If you like the idea of that then good luck to in aussie .

First sensible post i have seen on the entire forum, it's usually returning to the UK cause it's ---too hot----house has no central heating--- cant get decent sausages.

Point that Sassenach makes is that there are holes in every country and if you live in one of those dumps then move, but moving to another country wont always solve your problems.

i.e. If you hate the hussle and bussle of living in a city but cant relieve the stress cause the cities are violent at night after work---then move to the country or by the sea---same applies to most countries in the world.

kporte Jan 14th 2007 9:32 am

Re: I cannot believe Oz is as bad as this.
 

Originally Posted by arkon (Post 4284214)
Thing is Funky Monkey is we do remember why we came here in the first place, probably all the same reasons you and your fellow "waiting to get here" mob do. I now understand my thoughts then much better now in the cold light of the reality of trying both places. All those bad things I left the UK for by and large didn't directly affect me so why were they so important at the time. It can only be to help justify the move.

true. you have to move for reasons other than " britain is crap now"

Funky Monkey Jan 14th 2007 9:33 am

Re: I cannot believe Oz is as bad as this.
 

Originally Posted by arkon (Post 4284214)
Thing is Funky Monkey is we do remember why we came here in the first place, probably all the same reasons you and your fellow "waiting to get here" mob do. I now understand my thoughts then much better now in the cold light of the reality of trying both places. All those bad things I left the UK for by and large didn't directly affect me so why were they so important at the time. It can only be to help justify the move.

Hi Arkon.
From what you just said you should never have moved in the first place. I am affected by a lot of the issues I raised.
You left the U.K and why? Me and many of the "mob" are affected and at least I have a valid reason for trying it and not just because it is in "fashion".
Have the balls and say why you wanted to leave the U.K in the first place. You just seem an unhappy person who needs to look within your soul.

Hopefull Jan 14th 2007 9:34 am

Re: I cannot believe Oz is as bad as this.
 

Originally Posted by Funky Monkey (Post 4284097)
I agree and I said in a previous post that the U.K has some of the worlds most beautiful scenery.
I am talking day to day. I have been to Scotland on holiday and there are not a lot of jobs in a lot of those quiet areas. Ireland is my favourite place out of all my holiday destinations including Australia but who wants to live with a family with no work prospects.
This thread is getting a bit silly as I am talking about the day to day frustrations of many people in the U.K.
We are overpopulated and overcrowded in the U.K and I am sorry but no one will convince me differently.

Funky Monkey you mention Ireland as your favourite---so why not move there?

Funky Monkey Jan 14th 2007 9:44 am

Re: I cannot believe Oz is as bad as this.
 

Originally Posted by Hopefull (Post 4284236)
Funky Monkey you mention Ireland as your favourite---so why not move there?

Work prospects are not good. Did seriously look into it but i have 2 kids so I need to earn a wage.
Do not like the cities in Ireland in the sense of living in them (missus is Irish).

NKSK version 2 Jan 14th 2007 9:52 am

Re: I cannot believe Oz is as bad as this.
 

Originally Posted by Hels Bells (Post 4282636)



But isnt that the same the world over? Its like saying Bendigo, where I live doesnt have the same problems Melbourne has and doesnt that suggest that it isnt a problem with Australia, just certain areas of Australia??? :confused:

Just pointing this out as people seem to forget that every place has its good and bad....

Exactly - this is the point I was making. People - not sure about the OP - slate Britain as a country when there are perfectly beautiful areas of the country which don't have high crime, lots of Lativian navvies destroying society etc etc


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