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Garbatellamike Jan 17th 2017 8:53 pm

Re: Did the UK do the right thing in voting to leave the E.U.
 

Originally Posted by GarryP (Post 12154360)
Brexit: UK to leave single market, says Theresa May - BBC News

So, after 6 months of careful planning, all May can say is "well, we'll just walk away". Basically that was the situation at the beginning, she's made no progress,

From this comment I take it you haven't actually watched her speech then Garry?

OzTennis Jan 17th 2017 8:53 pm

Re: Did the UK do the right thing in voting to leave the E.U.
 
A good summary on a lot of the front pages here:

Theresa May's Brexit 'deal or no deal' - BBC News

astera Jan 18th 2017 12:58 am

Re: Did the UK do the right thing in voting to leave the E.U.
 

Originally Posted by GarryP (Post 12154360)
Dumb Dumb Dumb.

Dumbest leader in Europe at the moment. And all in the name of propaganda by pretending to deal with immigration.

If this was truly an issue she ought to have focused on non-EU migrants which make up the majority of those coming in each year. Cut that by half and all immigration falls by over a quarter. And all this without adversely affecting the rights of British nationals across the continent.

So instead of focusing on anything sensible, we're going to achieve nothing, while at the same time giving away so much:

- out of the single market, OUCH
- out of the customs union, OUCH
- downfall in investments
- increased chance of UK breakup
- no more protection by European courts and laws (which will suck for everything from human rights, workers' rights to the environment)
- British citizens no longer allowed to freely live and/or work wherever they please

Bummer for businesses, bummer for the British people. Lose-lose scenario that only Ms May(day) is capable of...

scot47 Jan 18th 2017 1:24 am

Re: Did the UK do the right thing in voting to leave the E.U.
 
With the rest of them she still talks as if London can dictate to the other EU members what is going to happen ! Has she learned the meaning of "negotiation" ? As Yannis said some time ago, "You thought you voted to leave - you will be spending the next 10 years negotiating !"

Beoz Jan 18th 2017 7:02 am

Re: Did the UK do the right thing in voting to leave the E.U.
 

Originally Posted by scot47 (Post 12154959)
With the rest of them she still talks as if London can dictate to the other EU members what is going to happen ! Has she learned the meaning of "negotiation" ? As Yannis said some time ago, "You thought you voted to leave - you will be spending the next 10 years negotiating !"

Looks like the Irish are on board for a bit of negotiating. Have the others actually said "no trade with Britain"? I don't think so.

Beoz Jan 18th 2017 7:03 am

Re: Did the UK do the right thing in voting to leave the E.U.
 

Originally Posted by astera (Post 12154941)
Dumbest leader in Europe at the moment. And all in the name of propaganda by pretending to deal with immigration.

If this was truly an issue she ought to have focused on non-EU migrants which make up the majority of those coming in each year. Cut that by half and all immigration falls by over a quarter. And all this without adversely affecting the rights of British nationals across the continent.

So instead of focusing on anything sensible, we're going to achieve nothing, while at the same time giving away so much:

- out of the single market, OUCH
- out of the customs union, OUCH
- downfall in investments
- increased chance of UK breakup
- no more protection by European courts and laws (which will suck for everything from human rights, workers' rights to the environment)
- British citizens no longer allowed to freely live and/or work wherever they please

Bummer for businesses, bummer for the British people. Lose-lose scenario that only Ms May(day) is capable of...

I don't believe May called the Brexit. The common man like you did.

You are blaming the wrong person for not getting the result you wanted.

But the common man will always look to blame.

Swerv-o Jan 18th 2017 8:25 am

Re: Did the UK do the right thing in voting to leave the E.U.
 

Originally Posted by Beoz (Post 12155257)
Looks like the Irish are on board for a bit of negotiating. Have the others actually said "no trade with Britain"? I don't think so.


Looks like the Irish are planning on maintaining the CTA - so if an EU passport is important for you, 4 years living in Dublin and you're back in the game...


S

knockoff nige Jan 18th 2017 2:53 pm

Re: Did the UK do the right thing in voting to leave the E.U.
 

Originally Posted by Swerv-o (Post 12155344)
Looks like the Irish are planning on maintaining the CTA - so if an EU passport is important for you, 4 years living in Dublin and you're back in the game...


S

I'd probably take that deal if I needed it.

Swerv-o Jan 18th 2017 2:54 pm

Re: Did the UK do the right thing in voting to leave the E.U.
 

Originally Posted by knockoff nige (Post 12155573)
I'd probably take that deal if I needed it.


I think I may end up with liver damage though...


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knockoff nige Jan 18th 2017 3:04 pm

Re: Did the UK do the right thing in voting to leave the E.U.
 

Originally Posted by Swerv-o (Post 12155575)
I think I may end up with liver damage though...


S

But a much sexier accent. Well depends on what part of Dublin.

Swerv-o Jan 18th 2017 3:05 pm

Re: Did the UK do the right thing in voting to leave the E.U.
 

Originally Posted by knockoff nige (Post 12155579)
But a much sexier accent. Well depends on what part of Dublin.


I wonder how much Smithwicks Red Ale I could drink in 4 years...


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knockoff nige Jan 18th 2017 4:24 pm

Re: Did the UK do the right thing in voting to leave the E.U.
 

Originally Posted by Swerv-o (Post 12155580)
I wonder how much Smithwicks Red Ale I could drink in 4 years...


S

Have you tried Special? It's a pint of Smithwicks with a Guinness head.

Swerv-o Jan 18th 2017 4:33 pm

Re: Did the UK do the right thing in voting to leave the E.U.
 

Originally Posted by knockoff nige (Post 12155613)
Have you tried Special? It's a pint of Smithwicks with a Guinness head.


I haven't - I didn't make it to Dublin this year, but am looking at going in the summer for a conference. So I'll take this recommendation and store it away until then :)


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Amazulu Jan 18th 2017 4:35 pm

Re: Did the UK do the right thing in voting to leave the E.U.
 

Originally Posted by Swerv-o (Post 12155344)
Looks like the Irish are planning on maintaining the CTA - so if an EU passport is important for you, 4 years living in Dublin and you're back in the game...


S

4 years in somewhere like Galway would be awesome but Dublin? No thanks - it's a grim, overpriced dump

knockoff nige Jan 18th 2017 4:38 pm

Re: Did the UK do the right thing in voting to leave the E.U.
 

Originally Posted by Amazulu (Post 12155619)
4 years in somewhere like Galway would be awesome but Dublin? No thanks - it's a grim, overpriced dump

You didn't do Dublin properly then.

Galway is really nice but 4 years there would be tough.


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