Originally Posted by Garbatellamike (Post 12086104)

Ok for the fourteenth time - democracy in the UK works by an electorate of 45 odd million having a vote each - it's called one man one vote

Originally Posted by Garbatellamike (Post 12086104)

question 2 is hypothetical can you provide some detail of your new evidence to inform my deliberations - I can't just guess based on the information you have not provided.

Originally Posted by Garbatellamike (Post 12086114)

Yes that's true

Lots of lies from both sides though surely you don't agree that one side told only lies and the other only the truth? That's EMIR logic and you must be smarter than him?

Originally Posted by astera (Post 12086119)

Oh right, so that's how democracy should work in the UK. England should get to decide and every other country should then have no say. Democracy at its finest...

But yet let me guess... you still spread fairy tales about the EU being undemocratic... even though every country's vote is equal and treated as 1:1?

Remind me, what's the definition of hypocrisy? :)



Actually it isn't. Not. At. All.

I wasn't talking about any evidence that I see, but analyses that Teresa May and the gov't would have access to (which I wouldn't even be privy to).

And yet you still cop out as expected. In fact the question couldn't be laid out in simpler terms. But I see it's a complete waste of time to even ask a simple yes/no question to someone with a certain mindset...

Originally Posted by astera (Post 12086119)

Oh right, so that's how democracy should work in the UK. England should get to decide and every other country should then have no say. Democracy at its finest...

But yet let me guess... you still spread fairy tales about the EU being undemocratic... even though every country's vote is equal and treated as 1:1?

Remind me, what's the definition of hypocrisy? :)



Actually it isn't. Not. At. All.

I wasn't talking about any evidence that I see, but analyses that Teresa May and the gov't would have access to (which I wouldn't even be privy to).

And yet you still cop out as expected. In fact the question couldn't be laid out in simpler terms. But I see it's a complete waste of time to even ask a simple yes/no question to someone with a certain mindset...

Originally Posted by paulry (Post 12086122)

:lol: To be fair, even a goldfish is smarter than EMIR!

Originally Posted by Garbatellamike (Post 12086123)

Umm the EU is essentially a federation of countries the UK is a single nation state

Originally Posted by Garbatellamike (Post 12086123)

Indeed you are right if someone wants to ask an open question and demand a yes or no answer they are setting themselves up for disappointment.

You want me to guess what information May has and then give you an answer?????? Bizarre request!

Originally Posted by astera (Post 12086136)

Yeah, once again my question had nothing to do with this. Just whether you believe that England should have the power to swing a vote against all of Scotland/Wales/NI.

Reading comprehension isn't one of your strong points, is it?



Quite the contrary, when dealing with an intelligent person you can expect an answer rather than an Usain Bolt-style sprint in the other direction.

As for May I never asked you what information she has (like you would even have a clue, LOL oh LOL!) - once again your reading comprehension skills have failed you.

I SIMPLY asked you whether she should call a second referendum if she had negative economic analyses of leaving the EU. It really doesn't get any simpler than this. Elementary school reading comprehension would suffice.

Originally Posted by astera (Post 12086136)

Yeah, once again my question had nothing to do with this. Just whether you believe that England should have the power to swing a vote against all of Scotland/Wales/NI.

Originally Posted by spouse of scouse (Post 12086161)

But how could the referendum have been structured to avoid such a possibility? Are you suggesting that every individual vote of people in Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland (whether that vote was leave or remain) should have been weighted in some way, so as to influence the outcome?

Originally Posted by Garbatellamike (Post 12086114)

Yes that's true

Lots of lies from both sides though surely you don't agree that one side told only lies and the other only the truth? That's EMIR logic and you must be smarter than him?

Originally Posted by astera (Post 12086119)

Oh right, so that's how democracy should work in the UK. England should get to decide and every other country should then have no say. Democracy at its finest...

But yet let me guess... you still spread fairy tales about the EU being undemocratic... even though every country's vote is equal and treated as 1:1?

Remind me, what's the definition of hypocrisy? :)



Actually it isn't. Not. At. All.

I wasn't talking about any evidence that I see, but analyses that Teresa May and the gov't would have access to (which I wouldn't even be privy to).

And yet you still cop out as expected. In fact the question couldn't be laid out in simpler terms. But I see it's a complete waste of time to even ask a simple yes/no question to someone with a certain mindset...

Originally Posted by spouse of scouse (Post 12086161)

But how could the referendum have been structured to avoid such a possibility? Are you suggesting that every individual vote of people in Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland (whether that vote was leave or remain) should have been weighted in some way, so as to influence the outcome?

Originally Posted by Beoz (Post 12086175)

If I was to say that the pound would 2:1 to the USD in 2026, and it wasn't, does that make me a liar? It would be damn funny if it was :)

Originally Posted by Beoz (Post 12086179)

You are massaging this to suit your agenda, which to be honest, is slowly falling apart. You are trying to break this down into regional zones. Why don't you go further - what about counties? Why stop at countries?

The UK doesn't look at general elections or referendums as a country v country 2:2 victory or what ever spin you want to put on it.

If Scotland wish to leave the UK, they can, have another localised referendum, and because of Brexit they may have good reason to do so. NI can join them. Wales obviously have made their call.

Originally Posted by astera (Post 12086183)

All I'm saying is that it could have been structured similarly to how the EU has managed to level the playing-field by giving each country an equal vote: so Malta gets one vote and similarly Germany gets one vote.