View Poll Results: Brexit the aftermath, did the people of the UK vote correctly ?
Yes
43
40.95%
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53
50.48%
Not more bloody navel gazing for gawd sakes !!!
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Did the UK do the right thing in voting to leave the E.U.
Oct 18th 2016, 1:31 am
#406
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Re: Did the UK do the right thing in voting to leave the E.U.
Well that's a bit of word salad.
The reality is the leave lot lied a lot, they also simplified things down past the true complexities, and then they didn't take responsibility for the mess they made.
No part of the right have covered themselves in glory over this - either then or now. The reality is that all they know how to do is destroy, so that's what they are aiming to do. However what's needed is a plan for building anew, for direction and vision - and they don't have the faintest clue (I don't think anyone is going to disagree with that).
Labour is having an internal knife fight.
Frankly politics, and the democratic system, has failed massively. Total screwup, borne of their inability to work with plans & facts. Same in the EU. Same in Australia. Same in the US.
Prizes go to the first country to find a way to put adults in charge.
The reality is the leave lot lied a lot, they also simplified things down past the true complexities, and then they didn't take responsibility for the mess they made.
No part of the right have covered themselves in glory over this - either then or now. The reality is that all they know how to do is destroy, so that's what they are aiming to do. However what's needed is a plan for building anew, for direction and vision - and they don't have the faintest clue (I don't think anyone is going to disagree with that).
Labour is having an internal knife fight.
Frankly politics, and the democratic system, has failed massively. Total screwup, borne of their inability to work with plans & facts. Same in the EU. Same in Australia. Same in the US.
Prizes go to the first country to find a way to put adults in charge.
But you are right about what is needed now. No point regressing.
Oct 18th 2016, 1:43 am
#407
snɐןɔ ʎʇıuɐs
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Re: Did the UK do the right thing in voting to leave the E.U.
Smartest move now would be to work out what that great plan is - and put it into action now, before any article 50. What are they going to do, kick you out?
The problem is there IS no plan, and totally the wrong people to come up with one. It's touched on in the new Adam Curtis doco - "HyperNormalisation", which is out now. Politicians have given up on setting out plans, because it's hard. Instead just say you will navigate the decline better than the other guy.
The problem is there IS no plan, and totally the wrong people to come up with one. It's touched on in the new Adam Curtis doco - "HyperNormalisation", which is out now. Politicians have given up on setting out plans, because it's hard. Instead just say you will navigate the decline better than the other guy.
Oct 18th 2016, 8:19 am
#408
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Re: Did the UK do the right thing in voting to leave the E.U.
The remainers had their opportunity. No good pulling out the arguments retrospectively and like OzT has done and fallen into the trap of overstating what the leavers actually said just to provide an argument on a topic which is lost.
But you are right about what is needed now. No point regressing.
But you are right about what is needed now. No point regressing.
Oct 18th 2016, 8:24 am
#409
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Re: Did the UK do the right thing in voting to leave the E.U.
The bus said "Let's spend it on the NHS". Just a suggestion, no more no less.
Nobody fault you don't understand the word "let's". I always thought it was a pretty simple word most people understand.
Leave campaign didn't make any election pledges because it wasn't an election.
Nobody fault you don't understand the word "let's". I always thought it was a pretty simple word most people understand.
Leave campaign didn't make any election pledges because it wasn't an election.
Oct 18th 2016, 9:28 am
#410
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Re: Did the UK do the right thing in voting to leave the E.U.
No one in their right mind would take it any other way than it is extra money for the NHS - it wasn't maybe or might have, let's means we can do it, despite Boris scratching his head. Water under the bridge I agree but a lot of people voted on a lie. Meanwhile papers like the Daily Express did their best with pictures of inflatable dinghies washed up on the Kent coast and captions like this is why we have to get out of the EU.
http://i.imgur.com/EVKvBn7.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/EVKvBn7.jpg
Oct 19th 2016, 8:22 am
#411
Last resort... format c:/
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Re: Did the UK do the right thing in voting to leave the E.U.
And anyone who believes it will actually happen, and that article 50 will be triggered, should be converting their life savings from GBP before the Pound takes the biggest hit during our lifetime...
Oct 19th 2016, 8:38 am
#412
snɐןɔ ʎʇıuɐs
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Re: Did the UK do the right thing in voting to leave the E.U.
I think they're scared that what they work out will make Brexit seem like an even worse idea than before.
And anyone who believes it will actually happen, and that article 50 will be triggered, should be converting their life savings from GBP before the Pound takes the biggest hit during our lifetime...
And anyone who believes it will actually happen, and that article 50 will be triggered, should be converting their life savings from GBP before the Pound takes the biggest hit during our lifetime...
However, you need to take into account that the only game the far right know is destruction. They ARE that stupid to break first, then hand it over to Labour to try to fix.
Oct 19th 2016, 11:34 am
#413
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Re: Did the UK do the right thing in voting to leave the E.U.
No matter what you think of his ridiculous politics, the guy is no leader. Not in a million years
Good luck with him trying to fix anything
Oct 19th 2016, 1:13 pm
#414
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Re: Did the UK do the right thing in voting to leave the E.U.
Inflation rate rising as the pound falls, business confidence falling, the more vulnerable will be harder hit, growth slowing down ....... (won't happen, scaremongering - Gove, Johnson and Farage)
Brexit: Inflation set to rise as UK economy faces slowdown | The Independent
Oct 19th 2016, 6:57 pm
#415
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Re: Did the UK do the right thing in voting to leave the E.U.
Are you referring to Turnbull winning?
Inflation rate rising as the pound falls, business confidence falling, the more vulnerable will be harder hit, growth slowing down ....... (won't happen, scaremongering - Gove, Johnson and Farage)
Brexit: Inflation set to rise as UK economy faces slowdown | The Independent
Inflation rate rising as the pound falls, business confidence falling, the more vulnerable will be harder hit, growth slowing down ....... (won't happen, scaremongering - Gove, Johnson and Farage)
Brexit: Inflation set to rise as UK economy faces slowdown | The Independent
Free healthcare is a wondering tool to threaten the masses with.
The blind and uneducated usually fall for it.
Oct 19th 2016, 8:10 pm
#416
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Re: Did the UK do the right thing in voting to leave the E.U.
Inflation rate rising as the pound falls, business confidence falling, the more vulnerable will be harder hit, growth slowing down ....... (won't happen, scaremongering - Gove, Johnson and Farage)
Brexit: Inflation set to rise as UK economy faces slowdown | The Independent
Guess what. The RBA is fighting deflation.
Oct 19th 2016, 11:04 pm
#417
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Oct 19th 2016, 11:11 pm
#418
has lost The Game
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Re: Did the UK do the right thing in voting to leave the E.U.
It's actually great news for my Police Pension, which grows with CPI. It's just a shame that the pounds will be virtually worthless...
+1% CPI, but -20% £ value
S
Oct 19th 2016, 11:45 pm
#419
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Re: Did the UK do the right thing in voting to leave the E.U.
GBP will come back - currencies fluctuate and have different effects (good/bad) at different rates. It was at this level to the AUD only 3 years ago - but these facts don't fit in with the negative news cycle and the agenda of some on BE