Why the difference...
Jun 19th 2008 | 12:15 pm
#106
Account Closed
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Re: Why the difference...
If it is between accounts in the same bank then it usually happens instantly.
Jun 21st 2008 | 12:21 am
#107
Ping pong PoM
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 1,537
From: Melbourne
Re: Why the difference...
It's not personal, merely an observation of the world at large. I don't do personal slanging matches and i don't engage in mindless name calling. I have no wish to spend my energies in that way.
Karma, I don't believe in, nor God, or any other supernatural being. I am the sum of my own actions, choices and decisions, I am not deterministic....
Whilst I'm sorry that Rabsody feels unhappy with her lot, I have no impact on her circumstance....
For me, this argument is purely philosophical, there are more issues and complications and I could ever hope to include in a post, I have provided a link to an article on happiness, you may find interesting in a previous post
Jun 21st 2008 | 12:30 am
#108
No Clean Feed
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 1,381
From: Hampton, Victoria
Re: Why the difference...
If you think that you will miss the UK and that you will compare them together, then yes you will. It's unavoidable.
It's all to do with attitude. If you come to Australia thinking it will be like England you're out of luck. Why would/should Australia change to be more like the UK, most of us left the UK because we were fed up. I'm glad it's not like the UK. Is it perfect ? Hell no, drives me nuts sometimes. However, I respect their right to cock it up their own way.
Can I see myself growing old here ? No. Can I see myself raising the kids here ? Yes. Once they are able to stand on their own two feet we'll find a nice island somewhere in the Pacific with a way to watch Aussie Rules, import Belgian beer and order Pizza. Take all the money and assets we have and live the rest of our lives being at one with nature on a sunny beach, while be a little tipsy, for a couple of bucks a day.
Al
It's all to do with attitude. If you come to Australia thinking it will be like England you're out of luck. Why would/should Australia change to be more like the UK, most of us left the UK because we were fed up. I'm glad it's not like the UK. Is it perfect ? Hell no, drives me nuts sometimes. However, I respect their right to cock it up their own way.
Can I see myself growing old here ? No. Can I see myself raising the kids here ? Yes. Once they are able to stand on their own two feet we'll find a nice island somewhere in the Pacific with a way to watch Aussie Rules, import Belgian beer and order Pizza. Take all the money and assets we have and live the rest of our lives being at one with nature on a sunny beach, while be a little tipsy, for a couple of bucks a day.
Al
Jun 21st 2008 | 7:58 am
#109
Victorian Evangelist
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 7,704
From: Melbourne, by the beach, living the dream.
Re: Why the difference...
That'll be Australia then
Buzzy
Jun 21st 2008 | 8:02 am
#110
Victorian Evangelist
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 7,704
From: Melbourne, by the beach, living the dream.
Re: Why the difference...
I don't miss the UK.
So it is avoidable.
As I said before, I enjoyed living in the UK and I enjoy living here. I enjoy both places for the different experiences that they offer. It's useless me living in Melbourne and whinging I can't get a cheap flight to Spain the same as it was useless me living in London and complaining I couldn't walk to a sandy beach, as neither will ever happen. They're different places each with their own different wonderful attractions.
Buzzy
Jun 21st 2008 | 8:10 am
#111
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Re: Why the difference...
I sat last night and wrote a really long post for this thread ... then deleted it.
Then i went to bed and instead of sleeping thought about it some more.
I came online today wondering if any of those who are not happy in oz had actually had the courage to reply ... the usual suspects (
) have but most have not.
But then can you blame them? They have already been labelled as having the wrong/negative attitude, having come here with some sort of warped vision of oz, they have been called whingers and accused of lacking balls ...
... and not only this but if you actually ask them you will probably find that most CANT even form a reply for your thread because quite frankly they cant find the words to explain how they feel to those close to them never mind people they have never met and on top of this they probably cant even define a particular reason why they are unhappy ...
Those of you who have made the move and love it are imo very very lucky. I didnt come here with a warped perception of a 'perfect' place or a 'uk with sun'. i didnt come here with a negative attitude (surely no migrant does?) and if you ask most who know me they will tell you that i am a positive, glass half full person who makes the best of everything and everyone around me.
But here i am and i have struggled. I cant define why. I dont even miss the uk (my home is where my oh and my kids are - always has been and always will be) not even in my worst moments have i actually considered moving back - after all me being happy or not is not going to be decided by WHERE i live.
i dont come on the boards and whinge about oz. in fact i really like it here. the people are great, the scenery is breathtaking we have a lovely house in a lovely area, my oh and kids all love it here .... but i have struggled to feel happy. Why? i have no idea ... and to be perfectly frank all of you who have posted why others are not happy have no real idea either. You havent been there and you dont know.
I dont think i will come back and read the replies to this. I dont think that i need or want to. I just hope that writing this has helped those who are struggling to realise that they are not alone (even though at times on here it feels as if you are)
I am more upset after writing this than i have been in weeks ... sometimes it doesnt help to think things through. So i am going to go back to thinking positive now and put the rest out of my mind ...
Adele x
Then i went to bed and instead of sleeping thought about it some more.
I came online today wondering if any of those who are not happy in oz had actually had the courage to reply ... the usual suspects (
) have but most have not.But then can you blame them? They have already been labelled as having the wrong/negative attitude, having come here with some sort of warped vision of oz, they have been called whingers and accused of lacking balls ...
... and not only this but if you actually ask them you will probably find that most CANT even form a reply for your thread because quite frankly they cant find the words to explain how they feel to those close to them never mind people they have never met and on top of this they probably cant even define a particular reason why they are unhappy ...
Those of you who have made the move and love it are imo very very lucky. I didnt come here with a warped perception of a 'perfect' place or a 'uk with sun'. i didnt come here with a negative attitude (surely no migrant does?) and if you ask most who know me they will tell you that i am a positive, glass half full person who makes the best of everything and everyone around me.
But here i am and i have struggled. I cant define why. I dont even miss the uk (my home is where my oh and my kids are - always has been and always will be) not even in my worst moments have i actually considered moving back - after all me being happy or not is not going to be decided by WHERE i live.
i dont come on the boards and whinge about oz. in fact i really like it here. the people are great, the scenery is breathtaking we have a lovely house in a lovely area, my oh and kids all love it here .... but i have struggled to feel happy. Why? i have no idea ... and to be perfectly frank all of you who have posted why others are not happy have no real idea either. You havent been there and you dont know.
I dont think i will come back and read the replies to this. I dont think that i need or want to. I just hope that writing this has helped those who are struggling to realise that they are not alone (even though at times on here it feels as if you are)
I am more upset after writing this than i have been in weeks ... sometimes it doesnt help to think things through. So i am going to go back to thinking positive now and put the rest out of my mind ...
Adele x
Do you live in Para Hills by any chance ? only kidding
))Maybe you are depressed and need to go and see a doctor ?? the fact that you can't say the reason why you are unhappy is a trigger - you must be depressed. Go and see a doctor, get some medication to assist with getting you out of the dumps and then reassess things 6 mths later.
Thats my 2 cents worth, I may be wrong but you sound depressed to me.
Jun 21st 2008 | 8:15 am
#112
Bitter and twisted
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 17,503
From: Upmarket
Re: Why the difference...
Do you live in Para Hills by any chance ? only kidding ))
Maybe you are depressed and need to go and see a doctor ?? the fact that you can't say the reason why you are unhappy is a trigger - you must be depressed. Go and see a doctor, get some medication to assist with getting you out of the dumps and then reassess things 6 mths later.
Thats my 2 cents worth, I may be wrong but you sound depressed to me.
))Maybe you are depressed and need to go and see a doctor ?? the fact that you can't say the reason why you are unhappy is a trigger - you must be depressed. Go and see a doctor, get some medication to assist with getting you out of the dumps and then reassess things 6 mths later.
Thats my 2 cents worth, I may be wrong but you sound depressed to me.
You are not qualified to say someone needs medical help......stop patronising
Jun 21st 2008 | 8:25 am
#113
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Re: Why the difference...
There is no need to get aggressive when I am trying to help someone and I did say that I maybe wrong but the tone of the post sounds like a person that it depressed to me and I have a right to express my opinion. I didn't say that I was a doctor !!!!
Jun 21st 2008 | 8:30 am
#114
Bitter and twisted
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 17,503
From: Upmarket
Re: Why the difference...
Read up on depression, a classic sympton is a feeling of sadness without being able to explain the reason why.
There is no need to get aggressive when I am trying to help someone and I did say that I maybe wrong but the tone of the post sounds like a person that it depressed to me and I have a right to express my opinion. I didn't say that I was a doctor !!!!
There is no need to get aggressive when I am trying to help someone and I did say that I maybe wrong but the tone of the post sounds like a person that it depressed to me and I have a right to express my opinion. I didn't say that I was a doctor !!!!
Jun 21st 2008 | 8:34 am
#115
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Re: Why the difference...
So no need to get on your high horse now is there
Jun 21st 2008 | 8:40 am
#116
Bitter and twisted
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 17,503
From: Upmarket
Re: Why the difference...
That is also a 'symptom' of many other things.
Why is anyone who is unhappy with their move to Australia labelled as being depressed
Perhaps it is simply a normal response to a crap situation.
Jun 21st 2008 | 8:49 am
#117
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Re: Why the difference...
A normal response to a situation is to be down in the dumps for a couple of weeks, any longer than that and we are talking depression, so to the person who made that sad post, read this and ignore if you wish but I suggest go and see a doctor it may help to have a better life.
Last edited by WS; Jun 21st 2008 at 8:53 am. Reason: Unnecessary comments
Jun 21st 2008 | 8:52 am
#118
Bitter and twisted
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 17,503
From: Upmarket
Re: Why the difference...
Edited: No point in a discussion with someone who resorts to personal insults when challenged.
Last edited by Grayling; Jun 21st 2008 at 9:10 am.
Jun 21st 2008 | 1:24 pm
#119
NO ADDED SUGAR
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 1,322
From: Center Parcs, WA
Re: Why the difference...
Do you live in Para Hills by any chance ? only kidding ))
Maybe you are depressed and need to go and see a doctor ?? the fact that you can't say the reason why you are unhappy is a trigger - you must be depressed. Go and see a doctor, get some medication to assist with getting you out of the dumps and then reassess things 6 mths later.
Thats my 2 cents worth, I may be wrong but you sound depressed to me.
))Maybe you are depressed and need to go and see a doctor ?? the fact that you can't say the reason why you are unhappy is a trigger - you must be depressed. Go and see a doctor, get some medication to assist with getting you out of the dumps and then reassess things 6 mths later.
Thats my 2 cents worth, I may be wrong but you sound depressed to me.
That's my unqualified opinion. I may be wrong but you sound like you have BPD to me.
Jun 21st 2008 | 4:05 pm
#120
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Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 4,079
Re: Why the difference...
I don't miss the UK.
So it is avoidable.
As I said before, I enjoyed living in the UK and I enjoy living here. I enjoy both places for the different experiences that they offer. It's useless me living in Melbourne and whinging I can't get a cheap flight to Spain the same as it was useless me living in London and complaining I couldn't walk to a sandy beach, as neither will ever happen. They're different places each with their own different wonderful attractions.
Buzzy
So it is avoidable.
As I said before, I enjoyed living in the UK and I enjoy living here. I enjoy both places for the different experiences that they offer. It's useless me living in Melbourne and whinging I can't get a cheap flight to Spain the same as it was useless me living in London and complaining I couldn't walk to a sandy beach, as neither will ever happen. They're different places each with their own different wonderful attractions.
Buzzy
).My view is Buzzy (if I can use you mate as an example) has things in the future to focus on, these keep him focused and motivated for the longer term. Therefore short term ups and downs pass by. Not saying this a reason for all happiness v dissatisfaction but having meaning or focus in ones life must help.
Grayling, I remember a thread about 18 months to 2.5 years ago on depression you contributed too with some informative contributions. Thankyou for that and too others G knows what they are talking about.
