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But you live in California! How is it possible to give a crap about the rest of the world if you live there??!!! :rofl: :D

(joking!)

Graham

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If u really want to get in, you can... legally. There are plenty of ways to do it, as this thread shows. you could even go on a working holiday visa and try & impress temp employers whilst there, or go & study and add to your trade skills then apply for residency whilst on a bridging visa. Don't bother doing it 'on the dodge', while i was working in Sydney in a telesaes job, we were raided by immigration and 1 guy was taken away, locked in a detention centre for 2 weeks (an old prison) then stuck on the first plane out- not a nice ordeal, really. He was a snior manager at the company and had a great life in Aus, he still would have if he'd done it properly.
Just do it properly, it may take a couple of years more (unless u marry an Aussie) cos it will come back & bite u in the ass!

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O my God I can't believe people who have criticised the OP have been called 'holier than thou' and 'judge jury and executioner'! He deliberately didn't work in order to claim benefits in order to keep his council house, which wasn't even his it was his grandparents'!!
Someone said earlier that you don't get something for nothing - well apparently this guy does. He clearly knows how to play the system, doesn't give a damn about breaking rules and sponging off the state - go for it, I say. I just hope that one day it comes back and bites him on the arse.
Why should some people take out thousands of pounds worth of loans in order to train/study to qualify in something which they then get paid a pittance to do because they are 'starting out' and then spend the next twenty years paying back their loans which means delaying other things in their life - like buying a house or having children - and then they apply legitimately to move to a country like Australia and THIS GUY thinks that NONE of that applies to him - why should he follow the rules like everyone else?! O MY GOD! :eek:

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I can't believe you are all getting your knickers in a twist about someone who is obviously just a wind up merchant. Are you all bored:rofl:

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Ha ha ha.... yes! But also furious because whether the OP is a wind up or not there are people like that out there and they do my head in! :mad: :p

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Yes :D

I've spent the day cleaning, can't get any more boring than that! :D

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Oh nip over here, there's a love. This place is a right mess and me and the girls haven't even been here all day and hubby has either been at work or outside. God knows who did it:lol:

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I've got MORE to do :eek: Got a rental inspection on Monday, you know one of them quarterly things. Only thing is I've been in the rental for 7 months. I hope they don't think I've got a two year contract :D

As for your mess mate, well I've got more than enough of my own :p :rofl:

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it grips me that you will buy a council house for peanuts, the rules are wrong that allow you to do this..:mad:

that said
im sure lots of people who have gone to aus have added a white lie or two to their paperwork to make things 'fit' what they needed.

the rich use tax consulatants, the poor abuse benefits, it adds up to the same..

you are actually quite lucky as you do have ways to get to aus but when you get there you have to think if you want to live like you are now..

i am aware of the catch 22 you find yourself in..

ps
people who work in housing benefit fraud look at this site too..

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My husband and I have not only jumped through those hoops - legally, but are still waiting and due to the volatile situation in his country, it could be at least another six months before we hear - if at all.

We have done everything by the book to get where we are.

I am not going to even answer the OP, but I will say that if he does get in illegally, then I hope he gets caught. Not being nasty, but it really isnt fair is it?

I am not judging his situation in the UK but to put in a fraudulent claim to get to Australia is not justifiable in any shape or form.

Samantha (still jumping through some very big hoops to get to where I want to be and doing it honestly)

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Perhaps my reaction was a little OTT. That said it is slightly hysterical to compare moving to OZ illegally with robbing a pensioner or commiting an armed blag. The fact is that despite what most government websites tell you to keep you from trying to enter illegally, it is often the first step in reality to getting permenant residence. Perhaps he could enter for a holiday, which surely would not be illegal, and then figure out a way to stay once there. Who knows but one fact is that the UK is full of Ozzies who have deliberately overstayed there visa so whjat's good for the goose and all that. I guess if you have paid a lot of cash to get in by legal methods it is bound to rub you up the wrong way to see others taking the easy route and making it non the less. Armed robbery. I ask you!!!

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the idea of being able to buy a council house for peanuts is so that poor people can have a chance to own their own home. I don't see anything wrong with that, especially as all local authorities in the UK and Northern Ireland are desperately trying to get rif of their housing stock because of the cost of maintaining them. Also, I don't know if you have notived, but most council houses in the Uk are located in places where it is not really safe to walk outdoors after dark. I have had council flats in the UK where they should have been paying me to live there. I can only imagine how much worse it is in NI.

PS - I have worked in housing benefit and believe me, most of the people who work there have such huge workloads that the last thing they would want to do is play sherlock holmes on here at the weekends.

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If you read the OP's messages you'll notice he did not qualify for the council house himself. His grandparents lived there and once they died he stayed in the house.

Who knows whether the guy has had to show any evidence of his income. I don't know much about council houses but I suspect when the "owners" die then the house would be eligable for someone else who really needs it. It's quite possible that a family or single parents needs the house more.

What I find really funny is that all of this has happened so that he could afford the house. How many 21 year olds own or can afford a house. Why should this guy be entitled to a house at 21, or any age for that matter? If he can afford to rent a flat by himself while working legally then that is what he should have been doing.

I have no sympathy for his situation because there are probably poorer people with low paying or no jobs that might be waiting for a council house.

I agree with others go ahead and go to Oz, I hope you get sent back.

And on a more serious note, why on earth don't you just get a working holiday visa? You qualify and you might find a sponsor while you're there.

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have i missed something here.

it has been pointed out that this lad can move to Oz. there is nothing illegal in what he is likely to do.

he wont qualify under a skilled route because of work history but it doesnt matter if he has other options.

i dont like what hes doing at home either but it doesnt mean he will be illegal in Oz..

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If he has lived in the house with his granparents for a certain number of years he is legally entitled to take over the tenancy after they pass away. My friend in the UK has just found himself in the very same situation. It is his HOME!!! The council will also provide a low interest mortgange for people in this situation and, if I am not mistaken, it is sometimes possible to get this kind of assisted mortgage while on benefits. This is because local authories recognise that if you are living in a council house in the first place you are probably not a lottery winner.