knifey_spoony

Ok im sure alot of you will disagree with this but im gonna ask anyway.Im a 21year old male from Ireland.Due to certain circumstances i lived with my grandparents right up till a year ago when they both died.As they lived in a council house i decided to remain in the house and take on the lease and eventually buy it for peanuts as i have lived there for 21 years.My mum,her husband and my younger brother(whom i have always been very close to)have decided that they would like to move to Australia.It's something i have always wanted to do and i would absolutely love to go with them.I have been working as a Tiler for 2 years but have been getting benifits on Jobseekers for a year so i could remain in my house.Being an apprentice it wasn't possible for me to afford a house earning £120 a week.As im 21 i won't be able to be included on my Mums Visa and as i haven't been working legally i won't be able to get one on my own.Is it possible to lie on your Visa?Like if i got an employer to say i have been working for them?If not is it hard to get work out there off the cards?I know this post might anger alot of people but i had to ask.

Swerv-o

Anger people? I don't think you'll know the half of it. Many people here have sweated - and are still sweating - blood and tears to get their visas legitimately - they have had to jump through the sometimes endless hoops, so why shouldn't you?

As for living illegally in Australia? It has to be a non starter. Your line of work will need some kind of trade certificate to prcatice with, and you will not be able to get a tax file number to work, so that will also mean no super or investment in your future. You will be limited to very menial work such as fruit picking or labouring. It will also mean no access to any healthcare systems, so don't break your leg. You will be constantly looking over your shoulder everytime you see a police car, though as you won't be able to get a driving licence, that may not bother you. You will also be eligible for summary deportation if you have any kind of run in with the authorities and they discover your visa status. So never mind the place you have, all your worldly possessions, off you go straight to jail and then onto a plane. Byee...

My advice: Don't bother.

S

knifey_spoony

How do i do it then?Even though i do have the skills they aren't on record so is it not impossible for me to get a visa?

Wendy

There's a few options:

A years working visa. Get out here and get some Australian work experience.

A Student Visa

Get a job and build up your experience, then apply.

There's probably a few more too, why not get an agents advice?

Centurion

So you've been fraudulently claiming benefits and working. Now you find yourself with the small problem that you cant apply for a visa because of that.

What goes around comes around

knifey_spoony

Well please tell me what you would have done if you earned £120 a week?Live on the street?

comet555

Maybe get roomates to help pay the rent...

knifey_spoony

Well that is also illegal as i was renting of the council so whats the difference?

themerlin

How Ironic, not too long ago that sort of illegal activity might have got you sent out here

comet555

Sorry.... not in the UK so I didn't really understand what a council house is.

But I would think that option would have been better then cheating the government and working illegally.

Vin 'n Bin

Are you the only one left in your family if your family do come to Australia? Do you have other close relatives over there? If you are the only one left then there are allowances for that...to join your family who are coming to Australia. Do you have a father over there who you are in touch with?...that factor and the possibility that you have other close relatives there will prevent you from coming here.
Please do not try to come here illegally...remember what all the genuine people who have applied to come have gone through. You would find yourself on the boat back to Ireland in no time ...B.

CasG

The OP may like to be aware that Aus Immigration watch this site.
He's digging himself deeper and deeper.

Do as other people do, and work towards getting a Visa legally - have a look at what Wendy has suggested.

knifey_spoony

Well both would have the exact same consequences.If i was caught renting the house out i would be evicted and unable to claim benifits/rent a council house again.As i said i never wanted to do it but i had no choice.I am now earning more so now im legit.

comet555

Well then... it looks like you'll just have to build up experience and then apply like everyone else.

I think you're going to have to do your own research on the subject. I can't see anyone sharing their knowledge with you in order to help you enter illegally.

iPom

Oh my, they don't put you on the boat ... What happens is the immigration guys burst through your door at 3am when you're asleep and arrest you on the spot whilst you're in your pj's. Then after a short spell in a cell at the airport, or waiting in the lounge (if the cell's full) handcuffed to a friendly officer waiting for your flight, they chuck you onto Garuda airlines finest (nice and inexpensive). No chance to pack, no chance to change clothing. I saw it happen to a backpacker a few years ago.