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Old Jun 2nd 2016 | 8:04 am
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Originally Posted by Moses2013
Agree, but the whole point was that many locations in Europe get far worse weather/less sun & more rain than many parts of the UK. Just because people think all Germans (Bavarians) wear Lederhosen, doesn't mean it's true.




Reality is that Cologne in Germany is just as wet as Manchester and they get the same amounts of sun, so I can't understand why Brits would be more depressed? Millions of people across Europe live in cities that are worse, or only slightly better when it comes to sunshine amounts.
It's not the weather, it seems to be the mentality.
Really?????

This table would suggest otherwise.

https://www.currentresults.com/Weather/Europe/Cities/sunshine-annual-average.php

The British cities, as well as Dublin, are at the bottom of sunshine hours. Poor old Glasgow.
 
Old Jun 2nd 2016 | 8:13 pm
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Really?????

This table would suggest otherwise.

https://www.currentresults.com/Weath...al-average.php

The British cities, as well as Dublin, are at the bottom of sunshine hours. Poor old Glasgow.


Not the most accurate table (still not too far off though) and you are looking at the whole year, but is Glasgow the only city in the UK?


Even if we are now looking at the whole year and not just winter sunshine, the whole South of England, so 28 million people get more sun than most Germans do.




To be fair, even Edinburgh gets 200 hours more sun than they do in Glasgow and even in Ireland we normally get between 1400-1600.
Portsmouth is nearly as sunny as Auckland, so for European standards the UK is not as bad as people try to make it.




It's probably British mentality, but other working Europeans look at work life balance first, rather than weather like most British do. No doubt I don't mind a bit of sun and also have a place in Spain, but I'm perfectly happy to have a lawn that's green and not brown.
 
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Originally Posted by Moses2013
Not the most accurate table (still not too far off though) and you are looking at the whole year, but is Glasgow the only city in the UK?


Even if we are now looking at the whole year and not just winter sunshine, the whole South of England, so 28 million people get more sun than most Germans do.




To be fair, even Edinburgh gets 200 hours more sun than they do in Glasgow and even in Ireland we normally get between 1400-1600.
Portsmouth is nearly as sunny as Auckland, so for European standards the UK is not as bad as people try to make it.




It's probably British mentality, but other working Europeans look at work life balance first, rather than weather like most British do. No doubt I don't mind a bit of sun and also have a place in Spain, but I'm perfectly happy to have a lawn that's green and not brown.
I think you're clutching at straws now.

But you are right on one thing. Auckland is a dump.
 
Old Jun 5th 2016 | 3:20 am
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Originally Posted by Beoz
No one ever goes to the UK for the weather so I don't know why selling the UK weather is even a talking point.
(Sorry to perpetuate the OT thread drift)

You'd be surprised: quite a few expats rather enjoy UK weather, 4 "real" seasons, mild summers & winters, etc...

Compare it to so hot/humid you can't touch your car steering wheel after parking for 10 minutes, or can never get dry after a shower; or so cold that it's hard to breathe/freezes your eyeballs as you walk 5 yards from front door to car (which is probably frozen solid too, unless parked in a heated garage...)

I could go on...
 
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No one ever goes to the UK for the weather so I don't know why selling the UK weather is even a talking point.

I did but I have different requirements to most people.
 
Old Jun 5th 2016 | 9:04 am
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No one ever goes to the UK for the weather so I don't know why selling the UK weather is even a talking point.

There are plenty of other sellable assets about the UK .... the weather aint one of them.
Weather was pretty much number 1 for me! The luxury of being able to walk pretty much all year round, not having to sit inside with curtains and doors closed to keep the heat out, not to have to lurch from air-conditioning to air-conditioning, variety of weather etc. I love it - have yet to encounter the dismal grey weeks/months that everyone goes on about but it did rain last Tuesday so perhaps that heralds the end of the world?!
 
Old Jun 5th 2016 | 9:37 am
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Weather was pretty much number 1 for me! The luxury of being able to walk pretty much all year round, not having to sit inside with curtains and doors closed to keep the heat out, not to have to lurch from air-conditioning to air-conditioning, variety of weather etc. I love it - have yet to encounter the dismal grey weeks/months that everyone goes on about but it did rain last Tuesday so perhaps that heralds the end of the world?!
In the overall scheme of things I prefer the Australian climate for the mild, warm even winter period.

But there really are some very odd things said about UK weather. I fact I think after a few years in Australia I might have started to believe them myself. It really does have a very mild climate and I too spend far more time outdoors than I could in Australia. Do loads more walking and can do that all year round, just put a hat and gloves on for a few a months. In Australia I could not walk for hours in searing heat and humidity.

The rain is noticeably less and less frequent than in Sydney but on the other hand you don't tend to get weeks of cloudless blue skies like you can in Sydney - at times. But the UK does not have nine months of cloud and drizzle nothing like it and it is very easy to protect against winter chills for the couple of months that they might be around.

It has also been light until early evenings since February and of course currently we have the much longer days but there will still be longer evenings until September / October. I find this a more liveable pattern of daylight hours and in many ways the climate is easier to live in too.
 
Old Jun 5th 2016 | 10:23 am
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Originally Posted by quoll
Weather was pretty much number 1 for me! The luxury of being able to walk pretty much all year round, not having to sit inside with curtains and doors closed to keep the heat out, not to have to lurch from air-conditioning to air-conditioning, variety of weather etc. I love it - have yet to encounter the dismal grey weeks/months that everyone goes on about but it did rain last Tuesday so perhaps that heralds the end of the world?!
Who has air con on all year round? Perth? Qld? Pretty much the same as having the radiators on for 9 months of the year.

If you don't like the air con in those heat infested places move to somewhere temperate like Sydney. We must have had the air con on no more that 10 times over the summer. Many places don't even have air con. We've actually had the heating on more than the cool. Pop it on for an hour, heat or cool, take the edge off .... done.
 
Old Jun 5th 2016 | 10:26 am
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In the overall scheme of things I prefer the Australian climate for the mild, warm even winter period.

But there really are some very odd things said about UK weather. I fact I think after a few years in Australia I might have started to believe them myself. It really does have a very mild climate and I too spend far more time outdoors than I could in Australia. Do loads more walking and can do that all year round, just put a hat and gloves on for a few a months. In Australia I could not walk for hours in searing heat and humidity.

The rain is noticeably less and less frequent than in Sydney but on the other hand you don't tend to get weeks of cloudless blue skies like you can in Sydney - at times. But the UK does not have nine months of cloud and drizzle nothing like it and it is very easy to protect against winter chills for the couple of months that they might be around.

It has also been light until early evenings since February and of course currently we have the much longer days but there will still be longer evenings until September / October. I find this a more liveable pattern of daylight hours and in many ways the climate is easier to live in too.
Just because today was a balmy sunny 25 degs. Its been freezing in the past few weeks in the south of the UK. Hardly what you want from spring. I guess the 3 months of pleasant weather is due to start.
 
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Who has air con on all year round? Perth? Qld? Pretty much the same as having the radiators on for 9 months of the year.

If you don't like the air con in those heat infested places move to somewhere temperate like Sydney. We must have had the air con on no more that 10 times over the summer. Many places don't even have air con. We've actually had the heating on more than the cool. Pop it on for an hour, heat or cool, take the edge off .... done.
We used our aircon about five times last summer, for about an hour at a time. Hate aircon and windows open, ceiling fans on works a treat (here anyway). I guess it's all a matter of perception. October in the UK for me sees the grey heavy sky which gets lower and lower until April. Other people don't see or feel that. I wish I were them.
 
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Originally Posted by moneypenny20
We used our aircon about five times last summer, for about an hour at a time. Hate aircon and windows open, ceiling fans on works a treat (here anyway). I guess it's all a matter of perception. October in the UK for me sees the grey heavy sky which gets lower and lower until April. Other people don't see or feel that. I wish I were them.
Where do you live?

That's the point I'm trying to make. Its the prolonged "grey heavy skies" (good description). The cold isn't really the issue but coupled with those grey heavy skies for months on end, its just depressing.
 
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Where do you live?

That's the point I'm trying to make. Its the prolonged "grey heavy skies" (good description). The cold isn't really the issue but coupled with those grey heavy skies for months on end, its just depressing.
About 10 minutes from the QLD/NSW border. Relatively high up and close enough to get sea breezes. This summer was humid, didn't like it, guess it was on a par with Brisbane/S Coast. Normally we don't get anything close to that. I didn't really move for the weather, just the experience but blue skies more often than not is a massive bonus. I get that lots of people love the 'mild' climate of the UK but Oct-Apr messed with my health, almost as if I couldn't stand up straight, the grey felt like a heavy weight on my shoulders.
 
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About 10 minutes from the QLD/NSW border. Relatively high up and close enough to get sea breezes. This summer was humid, didn't like it, guess it was on a par with Brisbane/S Coast. Normally we don't get anything close to that. I didn't really move for the weather, just the experience but blue skies more often than not is a massive bonus. I get that lots of people love the 'mild' climate of the UK but Oct-Apr messed with my health, almost as if I couldn't stand up straight, the grey felt like a heavy weight on my shoulders.
It messed with my mental health and I was forced to buy weekend ski trips every few weeks to Swiss or Austria just to get some sunshine in.
 
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Originally Posted by Beoz
Just because today was a balmy sunny 25 degs. Its been freezing in the past few weeks in the south of the UK. Hardly what you want from spring. I guess the 3 months of pleasant weather is due to start.
I have been in Australia since 19 May, so no awareness of what is going on in England weatherwise right now as I have not been monitoring. It was perfectly pleasant, no coat, dinner in the garden weather before I left though.

I know that there has been horrendous rain in Sydney and Brisbane recently but believe my flight back to Sydney via Brisbane from Townsville tomorrow should be ok. Thank goodness it wasn't scheduled for a day or two ago as there was no chance.
 
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Well the weather in uk is nice. I didn't have to put the heating on last night or this morning. Sun was out yesterday and reached 23 degrees. Therefore everyone else was out enjoying the rare uk sunshine. The week ahead is going to be ok too but turns next weekend. It's June and I'm wearing long sleeves but this afternoon I might need to put a t shirt on, again it might not be that warm.
It would be a nice to get a week or 2 of 25 degrees + so you know what to wear in the morning and last all day without rain coat, jumper etc. But it's England and this is what the weather is like living in the Northern Hemisphere close to Norway and the Baltics!
 


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