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Old Nov 29th 2005, 4:37 am
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Big CRTs probably give the best overall picture, but they have a size limit and are b. heavy and gross back to front!

Plasma screens have a better contrast ratio than LCD but use bags of power - they are the equivalent of half a bar on an electric fire. They also suffer burnout and would cost a fortune to repair.

LCDs don't suffer burnout. It's a matter of conjecture whether you can replace the fluorescent tubes that provide the illumination - some say they can't be replaced. They use a fraction of plasma's electricity.

The organic light emitting screens which are coming along promise to be much cheaper, far higher resolution, use much less power and to top it all could be made flexible.

Re. the comment on the quality of LCDs up close - we bought a JVC 32" LCD on the basis of seeing one in Singapore Harvey Norman: with a high definition transmission it is just like a projected 35mm slide at a foot viewing distance: absolutely stunning!
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Originally Posted by ozzieeagle
Why didn't you add rear projection ? If you look at sites that are right into this kind of thing. They will put Rear projection tv's in alongside and sometimes slightly in front still of these technologies.

IE: Rear Projection DLP 52 Inch HD (1368 x 2064 pixels) 100 Mhz = Samsung preferably as LG breaks down more often = 2,600 Aud

Plasma "HIGH DEF" do not get the confused with Standard Defnition cheapies same specs at the Rear projection well over AUD, 7,500 for the same picture quality and specs

LCD's 50 inches would be around 11,000 Aud, sure you can get 32 inch for less than 2000 now, but the refresh rate on them is woeful. IE; you get little shadows/ghosts when watching fast action like a ball moving in a soccerr game.

Talk to someone about the Technical specs of a "DLP" rear Projection tv v the other two first. Sure they have a much bigger footprint, but the picture quality for price is far far better.


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Sony's Bravia series are pretty good -here are the specs for you :

klv-v40a10 - 40" - costs about A$ 4,400 (in Dubai)
Contrast : 1300:1 ; brightness - 500 cd; refresh rate is 8 ms (which is very good).

When you buy a TV, take your own DVDs and ask them to demonstrate using those - so you get a better idea.

My husband could get a Phd in this area - the amount of research he has done on LCD/Plasma TVs . But the links are on his laptop - so will try and post them in the evening, if you are interested, that is.

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LCD would beat Plasma for higher resolutions. Although the newer HD Plasmas do have similar resolutions to LCD, typically 1024 x 768 or similar. Many older Plasmas would only be 800 x 600 or even 600 x 480.

LCDs do not suffer from screen burn but plasmas do. If you have a plasma TV and leave it on a channel that has a logo in the corner (many satellite channels have this) it can suffer from screen burn after prolonged use.

I bought LCD for these 2 reasons.

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Apparently Plasma will be phased out in a few years, as they are too expensive to maufacture compared to the falling cost of making the other ones..remember reading bout it on the beeb website.
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Thanks for your thoughts and some useful information. Think I definitely agree that LCD is the better choice

Just wich they would make them bigger
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Hi,
Sony's Bravia series are pretty good -here are the specs for you :

klv-v40a10 - 40" - costs about A$ 4,400 (in Dubai)
Contrast : 1300:1 ; brightness - 500 cd; refresh rate is 8 ms (which is very good).

When you buy a TV, take your own DVDs and ask them to demonstrate using those - so you get a better idea.

My husband could get a Phd in this area - the amount of research he has done on LCD/Plasma TVs . But the links are on his laptop - so will try and post them in the evening, if you are interested, that is.

Cheers
Anya

Yes I would like to look, because despite what some have said on here, I've done a fair bit of research, looking at dedicated forums to this kind of thing. I know at present that "DLP" rear projections according to the people in the know really leave the other technology for dead, especially when you factor in the price comparisons. SET is another story though, however there are not enough around at present to make a decent comparison Also DLP projectors are roaring up the league table in the comparison stakes at present.

If you factor in the SET technology on the horizon and the price comparisons of the current rear projections on the market, why spend double on Plasmas or LCD's
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Originally Posted by ozzieeagle
Yes I would like to look, because despite what some have said on here, I've done a fair bit of research, looking at dedicated forums to this kind of thing. I know at present that "DLP" rear projections according to the people in the know really leave the other technology for dead, especially when you factor in the price comparisons. SET is another story though, however there are not enough around at present to make a decent comparison Also DLP projectors are roaring up the league table in the comparison stakes at present.

If you factor in the SET technology on the horizon and the price comparisons of the current rear projections on the market, why spend double on Plasmas or LCD's
Does anyone know if you get HD Ready CRT TVs in Australia? And how much they cost? Any links to some electrical shops, ie the Aussie equivalent of Currys or Comet would be very helpful to me. I've been googling for an hour now I don't seem to be having much luck.

BTW: I am waiting for the SED screens to come out as in the UK SDTV looks awful on LCD and Plasma. HDTV in Aus may look fantastic though on an LCD. Thats another pro for moving. HDTV is light years ahead of the UK in Aus.
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Yes you can get all the Loewe and Metz brands here, which are the same upmarket German 100 mhz brands as the top tv's you would buy in the UK, 80cm widescreens are down to 2,200 aud now. However you can only purchase these in specialist stores like, Tivoli hifi and Carlton audio visual in Melbourne, not to sure where you would get those in the rest of the country. I think the resolution on these is somewhere around 1368 x 720.

BTW I ended up buying at 52 inch LG Rear pro DLP from JB hifi as soon as the price dropped below 2,000 Aud.

Reason being, it has loads of different viewing settings, heaps of inputs including HDMI and DVI and can handle just about any resolution you throw at it. I beleive it can handle up to 1960 x 1268.

The reason these tv's are rapidly dropping in price, is the advent of the new SED technology.

Tivoli for Loewe...

http://www.tivolihifi.com.au/index.p...ndex&cPath=3_4

CAV for Metz

http://www.carltonaudiovisual.com.au/?q=node/view/38

When you see the price that CaV charge for the Metz, (although you would pick it up considerably cheaper) you will understand why I got the LG, The same size HIres plasma with all the features would have cost over 6,000 aud.

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Originally Posted by Brisben
True LG are bringing out Holgraphic TV in 2010, they have also developed a new tv which is organic, it was on the gadget show today.


To be best the best way to get a decent opinion is to buy a buyers guide magazine, like which TV or something.


Half of these salesmen don't know their arse from their face and only wantto sell you something, product knowledge is always poor unless you go to a specialist outfit.


Buy and book for a fiver and save yourself a lot of agro and be sure to get a decent set with a good write up....Money well spent.
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i agree with you buy the what plasma or lcd magazine-- its gives you expert opinion on (1) picture quality
(2) connections
(3) ease of use
(4) value for money
(5) overall rating
there is one currently on the market which has the 32 award winning lcd/plasma tv for 2006 and you will see that pioneer/panasonic & hitachi seem to feature quite prominantly in the awards. these guys also explain how they test the tvs.check it here http://www.homecinemachoice.com/whatplasma/ for their publications which are very handy.

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Originally Posted by Tiawamutu
Do LCD TV's only go up to 94cm/37inch?

Has anyone seen any bigger ones?
OMG. Why the hell would anyone want a decent tv in oz? with the crap they put on it, a portable tv would do me just fine! IMO, The thought of going all the way to aus, to sit there and watch tv on a big screen just seems crazy. Its such a beautifull country, with so much to see and do, you probably won't even have much time to sit and watch it anyway.
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Originally Posted by yamahaha
Absolutely...
Also, try getting a salesman to demo a piece of fast action TV...it wont happen if they can help it. Theyll play you a clip form a Movie that wont have fast panning shots or fast action. Also that will bypass the broadcast limitations of todays signals...
This is so true. Have you noticed that in the showroom they always show movies like "Toy Story' or "Finding Nemo' as these look good on any TV & look great on big screens. I have a Toshiba 36" 100hz CRT & have yet to see a TV that has a better picture for under GBP7k. The picture quality on LCD & especially plasma is just not there yet. I think LCD (or an incarnation of it) will get there eventually....
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Originally Posted by funkybuddah
OMG. Why the hell would anyone want a decent tv in oz? with the crap they put on it, a portable tv would do me just fine! IMO, The thought of going all the way to aus, to sit there and watch tv on a big screen just seems crazy. Its such a beautifull country, with so much to see and do, you probably won't even have much time to sit and watch it anyway.
Yeah, I bought a 51cm portable for $109 from Dick Smiths (main TV still at sea) & hardly watch it. I will definitely not be getting Foxtel. A waste of money in my opinion. DVDs & bittorrent will do for me.
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Yeah, I bought a 51cm portable for $109 from Dick Smiths (main TV still at sea) & hardly watch it. I will definitely not be getting Foxtel. A waste of money in my opinion. DVDs & bittorrent will do for me.
Btw, seriously, what is the difference between Bittorrent and Limewire. I've yet to get a faster download on Bittorrent clients than limewire ?


As for TV, Loving football (errm real football) and enjoying the news when I want to watch it, especially as I'm a nghtshift worker, plus the fact that the kids are on Auto pilot, whilst the wife works days. Means for me Foxtel, is a must.


Got to admit, a hi fallouting TV is slightly wasted on foxtel though, For some reason the free to air Digi boxes, give a better picture the Foxtel one, although Foxtel managed to send me one without composite inputs, just RCA.
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Originally Posted by ozzieeagle
Btw, seriously, what is the difference between Bittorrent and Limewire. I've yet to get a faster download on Bittorrent clients than limewire ?


As for TV, Loving football (errm real football) and enjoying the news when I want to watch it, especially as I'm a nghtshift worker, plus the fact that the kids are on Auto pilot, whilst the wife works days. Means for me Foxtel, is a must.

Got to admit, a hi fallouting TV is slightly wasted on foxtel though, For some reason the free to air Digi boxes, give a better picture the Foxtel one, although Foxtel managed to send me one without composite inputs, just RCA.
Sorry, never heard of Limewire. Post some links & I'll have a look.
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Originally Posted by Amazulu
Sorry, never heard of Limewire. Post some links & I'll have a look.

Sounds like it's just a case of Limewire, being better known in Aussie/Asia and the US than the UK maybe ?

http://www.limewire.com/english/content/home.shtml

I've always been able to get any file I want on Limwire, and was dead curious about Bittorents, as I don't know anyone that uses the Torrents system here. In fact I learnt about Bittorrents of off British BBS sites.
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