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LCD or Plasma?
Jan 20th 2006, 2:02 pm
#76
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Re: LCD or Plasma?
Originally Posted by extrameant
Apparently some TV's claim to be HD ready because of the interface connector they have, but they can't display HD at full resolution.
Standard defintion TV has a resolution of 720 x 576 pixels in Australia. (vertical resolution is interlaced across two frames)
It seems there's two formats in use for HD in Australia, one with effectively twice the vertical resolution of standard definition (720x576 progressive or non interlaced) and one that has 1440 x 1080 interlaced pixels
So if your TV can do 1440 x 1080i or 720x576p then it ican display an HD content at full resolution.
Standard defintion TV has a resolution of 720 x 576 pixels in Australia. (vertical resolution is interlaced across two frames)
It seems there's two formats in use for HD in Australia, one with effectively twice the vertical resolution of standard definition (720x576 progressive or non interlaced) and one that has 1440 x 1080 interlaced pixels
So if your TV can do 1440 x 1080i or 720x576p then it ican display an HD content at full resolution.
Jan 20th 2006, 2:28 pm
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Re: LCD or Plasma?
Originally Posted by ABCDiamond
I agree completely, take yesterdays schedule for ABC & Ch 9, for example:
18:00 - 19:00 Dr Who (UK SciFi)
19:00 - 19:30 The News (Australian)
19:30 - 20:25 Cutting It (UK Drama)
20:00 - 20:30 Nigel's Place in France (UK)
20:30 - 22:40 Midsomer Murders (UK Murder Mystery)
22:40 - 23:10 Airline (UK)
18:00 - 19:00 Dr Who (UK SciFi)
19:00 - 19:30 The News (Australian)
19:30 - 20:25 Cutting It (UK Drama)
20:00 - 20:30 Nigel's Place in France (UK)
20:30 - 22:40 Midsomer Murders (UK Murder Mystery)
22:40 - 23:10 Airline (UK)
If it weren't for Satellite I wouldn't bother watching the neon god.Isn't Microsoft XP Media Center (Centre) the way to go for your entertainment of the future? Linked to your lappie, CRT, Plasma or whatever?
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Jan 20th 2006, 2:28 pm
#78
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Re: LCD or Plasma?
Originally Posted by squeezzii
I'd just like to put in my tuppennyworth here (not aimed at anyone specifically). I believe I am correct in pointing out that Foxtel only broadcast in standard definition (SD) and not in high defintion (HD) as they dont have the technology to broadcast in HD, so unless you are gonna be watching a lot of HD standard DVD'S or whatever it doesnt matter what flash screen capabilities you have, you're still just gonna get a standard picture-ok it may be a bit bigger/brighter but not as good as the salesmen would have you believe! In simple terms, if you've got a flash HD telly and you put a black and white video on-you're still gonna have a crap black and white picture.....
Jan 20th 2006, 9:43 pm
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Re: LCD or Plasma?
Originally Posted by squeezzii
I'd just like to put in my tuppennyworth here (not aimed at anyone specifically). I believe I am correct in pointing out that Foxtel only broadcast in standard definition (SD) and not in high defintion (HD) as they dont have the technology to broadcast in HD, so unless you are gonna be watching a lot of HD standard DVD'S or whatever it doesnt matter what flash screen capabilities you have, you're still just gonna get a standard picture-ok it may be a bit bigger/brighter but not as good as the salesmen would have you believe! In simple terms, if you've got a flash HD telly and you put a black and white video on-you're still gonna have a crap black and white picture.....
576p (576 horizontal lines progressive)
- supported by ABC, SBS, Seven, Prime
1080i (1080 horizontal lines interlaced)
- supported by Nine, Ten, WIN, NBN & Southern Cross Ten, Tas Digital
They all have a mandate to broadcast 1040 hrs HD pa. Foxtel is not a free to air broadcaster, which is why they don't have to comply. Providing High definition TV gets the company absolutely no extra money, because the content is simulcast in Standard defintion (where all the viewers are), so commercial companies have no incentive yet. From what I can gather, half the free to air companies only went along with the mandate because they were given free spectrum to broadcast HD, which they hope to use for more SD programs later if HD dies a death (cos no-one is watching it).
I am not sure if things have changed yet but most HD content was simply SD transcoded up to HD, which is a bit stupid, but it did comply with the mandate. I think I read somewhere that the BBC will make all their programs in HD by 2010, which will probably bring the rest of the world with them. Anyone know how many HD programs Australia is making?
Jan 20th 2006, 10:16 pm
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Re: LCD or Plasma?
I doubt if Foxtel/Austar could shove the data that HD requires down the satellite link with present equipment, even if they wanted to. Which is a pity, since a proper HD picture beats everything else hands down.
The Austar picture often shows quite noticeable pixellation and JPEG-type artifacts, indicating to me that it's on the edge bandwidth-wise.
The Austar picture often shows quite noticeable pixellation and JPEG-type artifacts, indicating to me that it's on the edge bandwidth-wise.
Jan 20th 2006, 11:17 pm
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Re: LCD or Plasma?
Originally Posted by squeezzii
I'd just like to put in my tuppennyworth here (not aimed at anyone specifically). I believe I am correct in pointing out that Foxtel only broadcast in standard definition (SD) and not in high defintion (HD) as they dont have the technology to broadcast in HD, so unless you are gonna be watching a lot of HD standard DVD'S or whatever it doesnt matter what flash screen capabilities you have, you're still just gonna get a standard picture-ok it may be a bit bigger/brighter but not as good as the salesmen would have you believe! In simple terms, if you've got a flash HD telly and you put a black and white video on-you're still gonna have a crap black and white picture.....
Not sure if i am more or less confused now
Jan 20th 2006, 11:49 pm
#82
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Re: LCD or Plasma?
Originally Posted by extrameant
You could be rght about foxtel. However:
576p (576 horizontal lines progressive)
- supported by ABC, SBS, Seven, Prime
1080i (1080 horizontal lines interlaced)
- supported by Nine, Ten, WIN, NBN & Southern Cross Ten, Tas Digital
They all have a mandate to broadcast 1040 hrs HD pa. Foxtel is not a free to air broadcaster, which is why they don't have to comply. Providing High definition TV gets the company absolutely no extra money, because the content is simulcast in Standard defintion (where all the viewers are), so commercial companies have no incentive yet. From what I can gather, half the free to air companies only went along with the mandate because they were given free spectrum to broadcast HD, which they hope to use for more SD programs later if HD dies a death (cos no-one is watching it).
I am not sure if things have changed yet but most HD content was simply SD transcoded up to HD, which is a bit stupid, but it did comply with the mandate. I think I read somewhere that the BBC will make all their programs in HD by 2010, which will probably bring the rest of the world with them. Anyone know how many HD programs Australia is making?
576p (576 horizontal lines progressive)
- supported by ABC, SBS, Seven, Prime
1080i (1080 horizontal lines interlaced)
- supported by Nine, Ten, WIN, NBN & Southern Cross Ten, Tas Digital
They all have a mandate to broadcast 1040 hrs HD pa. Foxtel is not a free to air broadcaster, which is why they don't have to comply. Providing High definition TV gets the company absolutely no extra money, because the content is simulcast in Standard defintion (where all the viewers are), so commercial companies have no incentive yet. From what I can gather, half the free to air companies only went along with the mandate because they were given free spectrum to broadcast HD, which they hope to use for more SD programs later if HD dies a death (cos no-one is watching it).
I am not sure if things have changed yet but most HD content was simply SD transcoded up to HD, which is a bit stupid, but it did comply with the mandate. I think I read somewhere that the BBC will make all their programs in HD by 2010, which will probably bring the rest of the world with them. Anyone know how many HD programs Australia is making?
I didn't know about transcoding up to HD, that is news to me, wouldn't suprise me at all. I wondered why I couldn't see background detail on supposedly HD broadcasts.
Foxtel "allegedly" is going hi def, mid 2007...
Good question about How many HD programmes Aussie is making... I think when Foxtel goes over to HD, that will make SD obsolete very quickly.
Plus with the coming of the Blue ray Hi def disc later this year, this will make many more people aware of the difference.
It's a bit like good stereo and average stereo, once your accustomed to the good, anything less gets annoying.
I guess it comes down to how important to you, your viewing and listening experience is.
Jan 23rd 2006, 12:46 am
#83
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Re: LCD or Plasma?
Originally Posted by ozzieeagle
Yes you can get all the Loewe and Metz brands here, which are the same upmarket German 100 mhz brands as the top tv's you would buy in the UK, 80cm widescreens are down to 2,200 aud now. However you can only purchase these in specialist stores like, Tivoli hifi and Carlton audio visual in Melbourne, not to sure where you would get those in the rest of the country. I think the resolution on these is somewhere around 1368 x 720.
The reason these tv's are rapidly dropping in price, is the advent of the new SED technology.
Tivoli for Loewe...
http://www.tivolihifi.com.au/index.p...ndex&cPath=3_4
CAV for Metz
http://www.carltonaudiovisual.com.au/?q=node/view/38
When you see the price that CaV charge for the Metz, (although you would pick it up considerably cheaper) you will understand why I got the LG, The same size HIres plasma with all the features would have cost over 6,000 aud.
The reason these tv's are rapidly dropping in price, is the advent of the new SED technology.
Tivoli for Loewe...
http://www.tivolihifi.com.au/index.p...ndex&cPath=3_4
CAV for Metz
http://www.carltonaudiovisual.com.au/?q=node/view/38
When you see the price that CaV charge for the Metz, (although you would pick it up considerably cheaper) you will understand why I got the LG, The same size HIres plasma with all the features would have cost over 6,000 aud.
Jan 23rd 2006, 12:54 am
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Re: LCD or Plasma?
Originally Posted by ozzieeagle
Foxtel "allegedly" is going hi def, mid 2007
http://www.foxtel.com.au/209_4231.htm
Jan 23rd 2006, 1:00 am
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Re: LCD or Plasma?
Originally Posted by extrameant
From what I can gather, half the free to air companies only went along with the mandate because they were given free spectrum to broadcast HD, which they hope to use for more SD programs later if HD dies a death (cos no-one is watching it).
TT
Jan 23rd 2006, 1:04 am
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Re: LCD or Plasma?
Originally Posted by martinw01908
Cheers. Those tv's are still about £1000 though, I know they are high end ones. What about Aus equivalent of Adsa or Tesco who are now selling 28 inch widescreen CRTs for about £200? Is there such a storein Aus?
Best I could come up with after a very quick browse was this.... I have seen them on sale quite often for sub 500 bucks though...
http://www.thegoodguys.com.au/v3/index.cfm
Jan 23rd 2006, 1:04 am
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Re: LCD or Plasma?
Originally Posted by TrickyTree
Bummmmeeerrrr
Ta for that
Jan 23rd 2006, 1:06 am
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Re: LCD or Plasma?
Originally Posted by ozzieeagle
Best I could come up with after a very quick browse was this.... I have seen them on sale quite often for sub 500 bucks though...
http://www.thegoodguys.com.au/v3/index.cfm
http://www.thegoodguys.com.au/v3/index.cfm
Just tried the link myself, go to catalogue, and choose TV's
use post code 3058
Jan 23rd 2006, 2:09 am
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Re: LCD or Plasma?
Originally Posted by martinw01908
Cheers. Those tv's are still about £1000 though, I know they are high end ones. What about Aus equivalent of Adsa or Tesco who are now selling 28 inch widescreen CRTs for about £200? Is there such a storein Aus?
Store price of $2999 is often discounted to about $2625, and $598 would be about $525
Jan 24th 2006, 12:29 am
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Re: LCD or Plasma?
Looks like SKY is one step ahead of FOX and the people back in the UK will be getting HD programs very soon by the looks of things.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2...030666,00.html
TT
http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2...030666,00.html
TT
Originally Posted by ozzieeagle
Bummmmeeerrrr
Ta for that
Ta for that