the troubadour

We agree there. Cease business and middle class welfare forthwith. There is no immediate budget problem.
Asylum seekers do generally learn English quickly and being involved in the area for a longtime have yet to meet one not wanting to work.
In many ways ideal immigrants. I 'd say they should be dispersed in the country regions to bring a bit of diversity to the regions.

paulry

This topic's been done to death.

Beoz

Exactly what I thought you would say. So no solution so current policy stands until better is found.

paulry

Incredible photos

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paulry

In both the UK and Australia, the left wing parties have tried to make themselves look more appealing by putting on "clothing" that is to the right of them but they are still socialists. Judge them by what they do - not what they look like.

the troubadour

Perhaps but still relevant while Australia maintains highly questionable, if not illegal policies. Of course no need to comment if you feel it all too much.

the troubadour

I have written several possible alternatives on several occasions as well you know. The current policy is eagerly in search of a solution and is not a solution.

Be interesting to see how accommodating the new Indonesian government will be will turn backs. Meanwhile Manus Island policy is in a state of decay, costing tax payers billions overall with Nauru not far behind.

The simple solution would be to overcome ideology and remove those judged under law to be refugees the right to settle in Australia and remove those not post haste.

This would be followed by an increased intake working with Indonesia. We live in a particular corner of the world and will be required to do our bit.

the troubadour

What is it with you and socialists? Have you been so brain washed from past experiences not to see beyond the rhetoric?

Do you mind telling me what is Liberal about the present lot in government? They have no mandate to carry out policy Thatcher wouldn't have even attempted.

Just what do you find attractive in an ever divided society, piloted by greed and economic thought, run increasingly for the corporates and big business with little thought for society, fairness and fair go.

Accountability out the window and secrecy in. Akin to Soviet Union in parts.
In the process they sell out Australia to foreigners at the same time.

The Liberal Party of old would be cringing if still around at how a party of central right decency had been thrashed to such an extent will their bend to the far right in policy.

Beoz

Of course there is a flip side to this. Allow those seeking asylum to travel at will across dangerous seas in life risking boats run by people traffickers who make massive profits, not for the good of refusgees but for themselves. More deaths at sea means more blame. Who will get that blame ...... not the smugglers ..... it will be the Oz govt.

I think we all agree an increase of intake is certainly possible, but that won't stop people smuggling. The current plan is not to stop asylum seeking. Its to stop or slow down the practice of people smuggling by boat.

the troubadour

Thing being of course people are in many cases fleeing untenable situations in their home lands or in crime/disease ridden camps for the large part anyway.
Their chances of longer term survival likely better if take to the high seas.

The people smuggling argument I find in part a bit of a furphy anyway. People are going to need a system in place to enable them to arrive at their end point.

Many Jews paid to escape Nazi terror during the war, in fact history is full of corrupt officials taking bribes to allow citizens to flee or enter countries etc. Nothing new there and the present system doesn't necessary make those under taking such escape routes anymore or less valid.

A question does the end justify the means? A supposedly somewhat civilised country as Australia, could at least be expected to follow the agreement it signed up to and not to flout international law.

If it feels unable to do so then withdraw from the convention and as such its mode of operation is clear and legal if ethically incorrect.

Today it may be foreign asylum seekers feeling the wrath of Australia, especially those in off shore detention camps. Tomorrow the victims will be closer to home.

Beoz

Australia accepts asylum seekers. Where did you get the idea it doesn't?

aussietobe

Australia resettles the third largest number of refugees in the world, resettling means providing them with PR status, and access to all benefits such as housing and welfare.

old.sparkles

source?

bcworld

Semantics.

Does Australia take the most refugees? > Check the facts

Amazulu

The manager of Germany should be fired u