Standanista

PS And adios Strasbourg expense accounts.

IKnowNothing

The biggest uprising against the political elite, the sports stars, the luvvies, the church leaders, the captains of industry etc. since the peasants revolt of 1381.

To coin a phrase from the sun in the 90s, "Up yours Delors".

Bermudashorts

Well I just did not see that coming.

And necer EVER have I been so happy to be wrong about something!

What an utterly fantastic morning. I cannot remember a better one.

FREEDOM.

IKnowNothing

I'll just leave this here - 1st November 1990, i recall walking out of my Office at midday and shouting/doing this (In Gateshead).

Millhouse

25p back then

DXBtoDOH

And the Sun backed the winning horse once again

I'm sure there were some at the Sun sweating bullets last night over last week's endorsement to Leave

Millhouse

anyone seen Ham-Face yet this morning?

Boomhauer

In the BE EU Poll thread : you , me, dubaiexile and more-sense-than-money got the winner and % right. Why the hell didn't I place some money with the bookies

Millhouse

because you were guessing in a risk free environment and were not confident enough of your guess to put your testicles on the line.

Millhouse

Ham Face on at 8am UK time. Farage on now.

DXBtoDOH

How long will Cameron last now?

If Remain had won I'd be pissed and wanting to force him out. But now that Leave has won I'm actually inclined to want him to stay on for the sake of stability. That is, as long as he appoints a very strongly vetted deputy to handle the EU withdrawal negotiations while he stays out of it. Maybe Gove and Gisela Stuart as a non-partisan team?

Johnson's future is the interesting question. I don't think Gove really wants to be PM. Johnson as the envoy to the EU is probably too fraught with difficulties because I imagine the EU leadership hates him more than anyone else in the UK right now. Perhaps draw him into the cabinet to groom him as the next PM (while watching him carefully, of course, he has the potential to be a brilliant PM but needs to be tested first). I also wouldn't rule out Theresa May, while she backed Remain it was clear it was lackluster and she wasn't active in the campaign. She's exuded a quiet, sensible pragmatism that may prove itself valuable and appealing to Middle England. It's only the far lefties who dislike her and they have now been reduced to utter irrelevancy with the now-certain collapse of Labour in near perpetuity.*

Osborne has got to go, however. He did many good things, but someone has to be sacrificed and if Cameron stays Osborne can't. It's easier to remove him from the Treasury as he's already unpopular enough and an astute politician knows they now need to appoint someone more sympathetic to the white working classes who swung to vote for Leave.

* Labour can survive but the party leadership and mantra has to drastically change and I don't know if that's entirely possible as last night's vote revealed what promises to be permanent divide between the Labour metropolitan elite and their supporters among students, minorities and Islington Guardian readers, and the traditional working classes. It's a very real clash of values. The Tories don't have a similar clash of values, which is why the party will be the first to steam forward into a post-EU future.

Bermudashorts

I will be very disappointed if Cameron resigns. I did not vote for a change in PM, I voted to leave the EU. He called this referendum, he needs to see the outcome through.

ETA and he quits...

DXBtoDOH

Too late.

Resigned.

A mistake, I think. But not until October.

Bahtatboy

Yep, this wasn't a party political vote.

Just a ****ed-up, xenophobic, mis-led and dishonest one.

Millhouse

I actually felt a bit sad for Ham face. I really hope Boris isn't put forward.