Truck Advice
Oct 21st 2005, 12:11 pm
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Re: Truck Advice
Originally Posted by gruffbrown
Any chance it will miss you?
And now im going to get some shut eye for a couple of hours.
Oct 21st 2005, 12:14 pm
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Re: Truck Advice
Originally Posted by Angry White Pyjamas
Always a chance. But right now the center track is still right over us for about 1am Tuesday.
And now im going to get some shut eye for a couple of hours.
And now im going to get some shut eye for a couple of hours.
Oct 21st 2005, 2:36 pm
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Re: Truck Advice
Originally Posted by britontour
I think these tests show the durability and build quality of a Toyota truck. The basically dropped a caravan on it, left it on a beach for the tide to come, run into a tree, set it on fire and the thing still kept going...
link to full story
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Oct 21st 2005, 2:40 pm
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Re: Truck Advice
Originally Posted by Angry White Pyjamas
And now im going to get some shut eye for a couple of hours.
Oct 21st 2005, 3:03 pm
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Re: Truck Advice
Originally Posted by gruffbrown
OK you truckers out there, my nice old 99 Dodge Ram 1500 is not doing too well at the moment, it's been abused and worked hard, but things are starting to break down and fall off (I've just put the grill back on with zip ties) The thought of taking it to a Dodge dealer to get the bigger things fixed, fills me with dread, as they charge like wounded rhinos and the local mechanics aren't much better.
So the question is a new truck or used and which kind? I've had two Rams and they're both pretty reliable. Had a peek at some Ford F150s and F250s without a salesman seeing me. And a quick shufty at The Nissan Titan, although it looked a bit plasticy. Bearing in mind, it's got to be a workhorse, I'd prefer a crew or quad cab and a V8 of some description. I would even consider a Utility body as that would save me schlepping my tools in and out every night. Any suggestions from people that drive any of these would be gratefully excepted.
So the question is a new truck or used and which kind? I've had two Rams and they're both pretty reliable. Had a peek at some Ford F150s and F250s without a salesman seeing me. And a quick shufty at The Nissan Titan, although it looked a bit plasticy. Bearing in mind, it's got to be a workhorse, I'd prefer a crew or quad cab and a V8 of some description. I would even consider a Utility body as that would save me schlepping my tools in and out every night. Any suggestions from people that drive any of these would be gratefully excepted.
My customers who have the Titan tell me it won't tow for s**t regardless of what Nissan may say in their adverts.
The Dodge is a gas hog. In fact, all Dodge trucks are gas hogs.
There is a reason why the F-150 has been the biggest selling truck in America for about 25 years, it is the best truck - period.
When you go to a dealer, call ahead and ask to speak the the Commercial Account Manager. Make an appointment. That way you will not have to deal with the retail salesman feeding frenzy. I presume the truck will go in your business name. If so, you should not have to pay the "Admin Fees" and wll get higher company discounts. I routinely sell to businesses at straight invoice with max rebates. No haggling, no time wasting. A Commercial Manager will show you the invoice without blinking an eye.
If you are interested in a Ford truck, email me privately with specs and I will tell you who has what you want in your area. I have access to Ford's non-public inventory system boh at work and at home.
Oct 21st 2005, 3:06 pm
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Re: Truck Advice
Originally Posted by Ray
I do like like my late Ram with its 4 doors .. but you need a change ..
F150 maybe ..
or the Honda Ridgeline
Not seen one yet but the Mitsibushi Raider should be seen
http://www.mitsubishicars.com/06raider/
F150 maybe ..
or the Honda Ridgeline
Not seen one yet but the Mitsibushi Raider should be seen
http://www.mitsubishicars.com/06raider/
Oct 21st 2005, 3:08 pm
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Re: Truck Advice
Originally Posted by Angry White Pyjamas
One other thing it is infact really a truck. its the only truck built on a real truck chassis...solid steel welded tube subframe.
The F-150 has the strongest chassis across all the brands for this size of truck. Demonstrable and proven.
Oct 21st 2005, 3:13 pm
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Re: Truck Advice
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Oct 21st 2005, 6:24 pm
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Re: Truck Advice
Originally Posted by TRPardoe
That's baloney.
The F-150 has the strongest chassis across all the brands for this size of truck. Demonstrable and proven.
The F-150 has the strongest chassis across all the brands for this size of truck. Demonstrable and proven.
Oct 21st 2005, 6:46 pm
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Re: Truck Advice
Originally Posted by anotherlimey
Ahhh but if we put an F-150 in the sea, crash it into a wall, drop a caravan on it, put it on a soon-to-be demolished building and set fire too it, will it still drive OK?
An F-150 would beat the equivalent Toyota pickup in a tug of war any day.
"Gee if that's a Toyota, what's a real Ota look like ?"
Oct 21st 2005, 6:53 pm
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Re: Truck Advice
Originally Posted by TRPardoe
A Commercial Manager will show you the invoice without blinking an eye.
One trick that dealers often play is the presentation of a trumped-up invoice, that includes bogus fees such as "predelivery inspection fees" or "advertising fees". The former is trumped up nonsense, the latter is generally reimbursed by the manufacturer, post-sale, when the holdback is paid to the dealer. As a result, the "invoice" that the dealer will show you often has several hundred dollars of additional profit packed onto the top.
Most people, expats or otherwise, don't really understand how car sales work, which dealers use to their full advantage. In this era of $3 per gallon fuel, it should be relatively easy to buy full-sized trucks and SUV's well below invoice, not just at invoice. The dealer makes a tidy enough profit from the holdback and financing fees, when applicable, to sell these things at competitive prices.
Oct 21st 2005, 7:03 pm
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Re: Truck Advice
Originally Posted by TRPardoe
The rednecks around here do that sort of thing every weekend at the mud-hole and they wouldn't be seen dead in a Toyota.
An F-150 would beat the equivalent Toyota pickup in a tug of war any day.
"Gee if that's a Toyota, what's a real Ota look like ?"
An F-150 would beat the equivalent Toyota pickup in a tug of war any day.
"Gee if that's a Toyota, what's a real Ota look like ?"
Oct 21st 2005, 7:06 pm
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Re: Truck Advice
Originally Posted by RoadWarriorFromLP
That's no big deal. Invoice data is readily available from Edmunds and Kelly Blue Book.
One trick that dealers often play is the presentation of a trumped-up invoice, that includes bogus fees such as "predelivery inspection fees" or "advertising fees". The former is trumped up nonsense, the latter is generally reimbursed by the manufacturer, post-sale, when the holdback is paid to the dealer. As a result, the "invoice" that the dealer will show you often has several hundred dollars of additional profit packed onto the top.
Most people, expats or otherwise, don't really understand how car sales work, which dealers use to their full advantage. In this era of $3 per gallon fuel, it should be relatively easy to buy full-sized trucks and SUV's well below invoice, not just at invoice. The dealer makes a tidy enough profit from the holdback and financing fees, when applicable, to sell these things at competitive prices.
One trick that dealers often play is the presentation of a trumped-up invoice, that includes bogus fees such as "predelivery inspection fees" or "advertising fees". The former is trumped up nonsense, the latter is generally reimbursed by the manufacturer, post-sale, when the holdback is paid to the dealer. As a result, the "invoice" that the dealer will show you often has several hundred dollars of additional profit packed onto the top.
Most people, expats or otherwise, don't really understand how car sales work, which dealers use to their full advantage. In this era of $3 per gallon fuel, it should be relatively easy to buy full-sized trucks and SUV's well below invoice, not just at invoice. The dealer makes a tidy enough profit from the holdback and financing fees, when applicable, to sell these things at competitive prices.
There is only one "invoice" for a vehicle, regardless of what rumours you may hear about "the real invoice". There are no "predelivery inspection fees" or "advertising fees" on an invoice. There are delivery fees charged by the manufacturer to the dealer. The Monroney sticker which is in the window of every new vehicle is a legal requirement which shows all retail charges on the vehicle.
On certain specialised vehicles there may be a "bump sticker" which shows the "market value" markup. This is perfectly legal. It is up to the buyer whether he accepts this and pays it.
Holdback is between the manufacturer and the dealer, It is not negotiable and is none of your business.
It's laughable how people have this huge downer on Car Dealers and don't blink at the 100% markup (or more) at a jewellery store. Try asking to see the invoice there!
Oct 21st 2005, 7:07 pm
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Re: Truck Advice
Originally Posted by anotherlimey
But then again you do work for a Ford dealer.
Oct 21st 2005, 7:12 pm
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Re: Truck Advice
Originally Posted by TRPardoe
Which is why, when it comes to trucks and their abilities, I know what I am talking about.