Octang Frye

There you go again with your government coercion thing!

Why punish people for keeping their cars running? Common rail and PD engines are very different from the old smokers. They don't put out nasty stuff.

Bob

Diesels aren't that noisy and smelly these days, not in consumer cars at least.

It's not popular in the US because it's more pricey, also doesn't work across the country, anywhere especially cold can cause it to "sludge" so you don't tend to see many places selling it in Maine, except along the motor way and perhaps in the summer in tourist spots...it's getting more popular mind, but not all that convenient. Even the log trucks use petrol and diesel is much better on heavy loads.

Bob

In Japan, well Tokyo...you've got to get a tax disc that's proportionally rated to the age of the car, it's essentially nothing for 3 year old cars and gets expensive for anything over 6, 10 year old car would be more expensive to keep on the road than to get a new car, which is why there's a massive "grey" import market for mid aged Japanese cars in the UK and Australia.

Anyway, petrol, down my way the cheapest place had gone up to $2.71 which was a bargain, the next cheapest was a Hess at $2.75 nearly everywhere else was $2.80- $2.85

another bloody yank

To someone like me who is used to keeping something running for as long as possible and then a little longer, that just seems so wasteful. Not to mention, with a plan like that I probably couldn't afford to drive at all.

tamms_1965

They also take the motors out of them and send them here...that's how we replaced son's motor in his Camry a few years back.

meauxna

That's probably part of the plan.
It's another one of those geography things. A much smaller place that doesn't require a car to get to the mailbox, KWIM.

Octang Frye

ABY - check this out; car scrappage pictures from the UK. There's nice some looking motors there.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-SCRAPPED.html

What a waste. First dibs on the silver Merc in the foreground. And the Snaab convertible top left.

Bob

Problem they have is not enough space to keep your cars...in Tokyo, you've got to provide proof that you have off street parking or you aren't allowed to buy a car.

Not so reliant on the car out there either and because of dense population in the larger cities, it's to keep pollution down, and things like a car, environmentally speaking, they should be scrapped every 8-10 years, cost of running a new car and pollution put out means it is cheaper to get a new car and run it for 4 years than to get an older car and run it for the same amount of time.

Doesn't help with the up front cost mind

Bob

Aye, easier to get a engine than a whole car here, but the down side to a grey import, unless you understand Japanese, those full service histories are worthless and you could be buying a mellon

chartreuse

Apparently that's easier said than done, too.

Brit3964

20yr old diesels yes but the newer clean diesels not. In fact it's quite hard to tell if it is a diesel until you have to wait a few seconds or so to start them.

DaveLovesDee

The UK is now looking at almost £6.00 per Imperial Gallon (£1.31 per Litre) in some areas of the UK soon. Most will pay an average of £1.20 per Litre according to the latest RAC report

another bloody yank

How awful. The thought of it makes me cringe.

HumphreyC

Triple whammy

Value of the pound has gone down
Price of a barrel of oil has gone up
Fuel duty has gone up

....and no sign of an end in sight

tamms_1965

The thing I looked at was the mileage, which does accompany the motor. And, we got a guarantee from the business that put serviced the car (they use these engines on a regular basis). It ran well at least another 2 years until son traded it in for a nicer Honda which was then totaled while it was parked outside his house. A 3:00pm drunk hit it and was trying to leave the seen but son heard crash and found him staggering down the street. Luckily, the guy was fully insured and he bought a nice Hyundai.