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Old Feb 7th 2005 | 7:30 am
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Originally Posted by anotherlimey
I think the US worker is more efficient than an EU worker.
Ah, you mean the average US worker gets screwed more than the average EU worker. Or more precisely, the proportion of US workers who get screwed is far greater than the proportion of EU workers.
 
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Originally Posted by AdobePinon
Ah, you mean the average US worker gets screwed more than the average EU worker. Or more precisely, the proportion of US workers who get screwed is far greater than the proportion of EU workers.

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Old Feb 7th 2005 | 7:37 am
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Originally Posted by Pigtails
I have to disagree. I would have to be a bloody millionaire in England to live in the house I live in here!
wouldn't we all.......it's only because land is so much more valuable in the UK thats all....and besides what can your house give you that you couldn't get in a house in the UK....I will tell you the answer "NOTHING" because all the houses and all the SUV's in the world don't mean SQUAT.......it's the relationships you have with PEOPLE that MATTER........I recon 90% of the people over here are slaves to the almighty $$$$$ the other 10% are HAPPY........most people think $$$ makes you happy or should I say what $$$ can bring you.....but it's a lie.......belive me I have a lot of STUFF myself but I realize what it is it's just STUFF thats all, true happiness will only come from your relationships with your fellow man.........good luck
 
Old Feb 7th 2005 | 7:38 am
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Originally Posted by psb182
wouldn't we all.......it's only because land is so much more valuable in the UK thats all....and besides what can your house give you that you couldn't get in a house in the UK....I will tell you the answer "NOTHING" because all the houses and all the SUV's in the world don't mean SQUAT.......it's the relationships you have with PEOPLE that MATTER........I recon 90% of the people over here are slaves to the almighty $$$$$ the other 10% are HAPPY........most people think $$$ makes you happy or should I say what $$$ can bring you.....but it's a lie.......belive me I have a lot of STUFF myself but I realize what it is it's just STUFF thats all, true happiness will only come from your relationships with your fellow man.........good luck

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Originally Posted by psb182
wouldn't we all.......it's only because land is so much more valuable in the UK thats all....and besides what can your house give you that you couldn't get in a house in the UK....I will tell you the answer "NOTHING" because all the houses and all the SUV's in the world don't mean SQUAT.......it's the relationships you have with PEOPLE that MATTER........I recon 90% of the people over here are slaves to the almighty $$$$$ the other 10% are HAPPY........most people think $$$ makes you happy or should I say what $$$ can bring you.....but it's a lie.......belive me I have a lot of STUFF myself but I realize what it is it's just STUFF thats all, true happiness will only come from your relationships with your fellow man.........good luck
Arrggghh! It burns, IT BURNS! Let me outta here... Lies! It's all LIES! psb182 speaks with forked tongue!
 
Old Feb 7th 2005 | 7:51 am
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Arrggghh! It burns, IT BURNS! Let me outta here... Lies! It's all LIES! psb182 speaks with forked tongue!


you see I'm very shallow (unlike my swimming pool ha ha !!)
 
Old Feb 7th 2005 | 7:55 am
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Originally Posted by anotherlimey
Did you get this from the book 'European Dream'?

I think the US worker is more efficient than an EU worker. I saw the figures a few months ago, they went something like this;

Average company earnings per employee,

1. US -> $60,000
2. France -> $50,000
3. UK -> $45,000

I'll try to find a source on the Internet for it.

-tom
yes, book written by Jeremy Rifkin. (never read it, but saw an interview with him once)

Also according to the Dave Ramsey radio show, the mean average income in the USA is $42,000

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Originally Posted by Jabba1
I've heard about this supposed "Amercan dream" business, and even though I'm an American I've no idea what it means. I would like to offer a counter question- is there such a thing as a "British dream"?


While were at it let's include a few other counties in the mix. What would a French dream be? How about a Spanish dream, Russian dream or Austrailan dream? Anybody have an idea what a Japanese dream would consist of?

Just thought I'd ask. We Americans sometimes wonder about the dreams of other nations.

I lived out in Singapore for a few years prior to moving to the US and the local media (all closely monitored by the government) was and is constantly reporting on speeches by the Senior Minister, Lee Kwan Yew or the Prime Minister (the current one just happens to be his son..) The country is supposed to be democratic but it's pretty much a dictatorship as the PAP (People's Action Party) has been in power since the republic was founded in 1965.

Every day in the newspapers and on TV and radio there are reports that Singapore must be No.1.....and they're reminded about the 'Singapore Dream' (the govt. wants to emulate Switzerland apparently):

http://ourstory.asia1.com.sg/dream/dream.html

http://www.mita.gov.sg/pressroom/press_020402.html

http://www.asiaweek.com/asiaweek/96/0906/nat2.html

(On the other hand the locals obsess about striving for the goal of the 5C's so they feel that they have acheived in life - Cash, Condominium, Credit Card, Car and Country Club membership!!!!

As an aside....I don't feel that there is a British Dream...but maybe there is for economic migrants whom are desperate to gain entry to the UK; even now there are hundreds of would-be asylum seekers waiting it out in northern France (Calais and Sangatte) in Red Cross centres to seize an opportunity to get across the Channel to England.....yet they're not being persecuted in France are they? Also with the UK having historical links with some of the old colonial nations, many citizens of Commonwealth countries - especially the Indian sub-continent are only too keen to have an opportunity to begin a new life in the UK.
 
Old Feb 7th 2005 | 8:06 am
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Originally Posted by Manc
yes, book written by Jeremy Rifkin. (never read it, but saw an interview with him once)

Also according to the Dave Ramsey radio show, the mean average income in the USA is $42,000
For anyone with time for a bit of a read on this topic, this is interesting.

http://www.nybooks.com/articles/17726
 
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Originally Posted by Manc
I think if you and him were to add up all your assets, you're probably not too far from being that already.
I wouldn't be able to get THAT much for the kids Manc, and though my personal ASSets would fetch a lot, I don't think we'd quite be in that category yet!
 
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Originally Posted by Jabba1
Oh, live in a one room trailer do you?

Now if I lived in California, that might actually be true!
 
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Originally Posted by psb182
wouldn't we all.......it's only because land is so much more valuable in the UK thats all....and besides what can your house give you that you couldn't get in a house in the UK....I will tell you the answer "NOTHING" because all the houses and all the SUV's in the world don't mean SQUAT.......it's the relationships you have with PEOPLE that MATTER........I recon 90% of the people over here are slaves to the almighty $$$$$ the other 10% are HAPPY........most people think $$$ makes you happy or should I say what $$$ can bring you.....but it's a lie.......belive me I have a lot of STUFF myself but I realize what it is it's just STUFF thats all, true happiness will only come from your relationships with your fellow man.........good luck

You're having a rough time in life right now aren't you?

So if I'm living out on the streets, no car, no house, raising my kids under a bridge, that'll make me happy as long as I have a good relationship with the other homeless people?




"I'd like to teach the world to sing in perfect harmony......"
 
Old Feb 7th 2005 | 8:44 am
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Originally Posted by Pigtails
You're having a rough time in life right now aren't you?

So if I'm living out on the streets, no car, no house, raising my kids under a bridge, that'll make me happy as long as I have a good relationship with the other homeless people?




"I'd like to teach the world to sing in perfect harmony......"
no not having a hard time at all.....you see I sell the American dream to people like you......and MOST can't afford it.......you say stuff like this and you have no idea who I am......I could be Bill Gates for all you know

anyway I refuse to play mind games with an unarmed opponent.....go get into a pissing contest with someone who gives a shit
 
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no not having a hard time at all.....you see I sell the American dream to people like you......and MOST can't afford it.......you say stuff like this and you have no idea who I am......I could be Bill Gates for all you know

anyway I refuse to play mind games with an unarmed opponent.....go get into a pissing contest with someone who gives a shit

if you are Bill Gates I am having some major issues with Net Meeting running on Windows XP this afternoon - can you help ?

Lighten up
 
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Originally Posted by Eskimo
if you are Bill Gates I am having some major issues with Net Meeting running on Windows XP this afternoon - can you help ?

Lighten up

can't lighten up I am having a rough time in life right now....lol
 


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