Ok, million dollar question then....in a couple of years once developers are used to the architectures of the machines and what they are capable of which will be superior? By this I mean if they pushed the technology to its limits and made the same game on both machines would you notice a difference??

It is going to be fantastic no doubt - the only thing is the novelty will wear off PDQ - and you will be left with 2 or 3 games and the rest will be crap and way behind PS3 and 360. The controller is great fun - I was using it on a driving game last week - but it doesnt make a great console

ps3 & 360 are approximately equal, the ps3 has a faster cpu the 360 has a much faster gpu.

I will be thinking of you when you are playing GTA: some random city and Gran Torismo 8

Nintendo are about the games and original gameplay. They are the only console maker to actually make a profit.

Thats $200 extra sir!

Huh? its $199 more and hardly 'built-in'
established? I've yet to find a game I must have for mine. I have the original 5 games I got when I bought it. Last time I played it was Christmas last year. My daughter like the dancing games - not a single dance game or mat available - established indeed

I didnt say I would get one - or that I dont like Nintendo - their gameplay is usually superb - that said you are seriously over generalising - there are awesome original games on all consoles - and some serious shite on nintendo.

Wii is a great concept but the longevity isnt there. Sales wont get near Xboz and PS3 - and if Wii isnt a huge hit then they may make profits no more......will be an interesting few months

My bad. I thought that the storage device was DVD HD? Didn't know you had to splash out on an extra to get the output in HD.

Edit: Ok, the whole HD package is an add-on.

This is very reminiscent of games mags

$199 is not a bad price though for an HD-DVD drive, especially when you look at how much a standalone HD-DVD player currently sells for. I wonder how much the PS3 would have cost if it were not for the blu ray drive.

And there is apparantly 160 games availabe for the Xbox 360, a nice Christmas present for your daughter will be Dance Dance

Interesting article on the PS3 launch:

http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/top/for...ide-214130.php

Looks like some enterprising (or despicable) Japanese businessmen hired homeless chinese to sit in queue for the console and then paid them $90 for queing up. Whole lot of them being sold online right now for ridiculous mark-ups. How many news stories will we see on the 17th and 19th about stolen PS3/Wiis and how much will they go for on ebay?

spends oodles on a PC to kick arse, or spend a small oddle on a console to play some games that kick arse...and spend a fortune on games....

though one thing for the x-box is the movie/tv show downloads that they'll offer with that new deal MS signed, which ain't bad...

what's really scary, I saw a port for diablo type game, FF and some others being done for a mobile phones...who'd want to play something like that on one? *lol*

I shouldn't laugh, there's simcity 1 out there too...

They'd be onto the next next gen before that happens

Hey thanks for the link - it will sure make her Christmas.

We have waited over a year for a dance game to come out. She uses the PS2 it replaced more than the XBOX 360.

With over 8,000 games for the PS2 it was a shock to suddenly have a very limited selection to choose from. Most games I tried were disappointing, with graphics little better than Halo for the original XBOX. Two games I have I consider junk - Tiger Woods PGA tour 2006 and Need for Speed most wanted. I haven't bought a single game or played it since Christmas last year. I just had to buy the console though, premium and the wireless controllers etc, spoilt pr!ck that I am . . .