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Old May 31st 2007, 3:54 pm
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Originally Posted by Sally
I went to an extremely boring dinner party once where a number of doctors were complaining their heads off about how tough their lives were - one has a home in France which he went to for a long weekend every fortnight, so we said, "why don't you move to France?" Oh no, that's no good, the doctors only get paid half of their British equivalents. (This guy also only did 2 clinics a week, spending the rest of the time on "research".
I know a good few doctors - some good doctors and good people, but a lot of moronic, egomaniac knobheads.
Ok, so its hardly a representative sample, but good enough for me.
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Labour may be throwing more money at the NHS but they also brought in more layers of management
Actually the excess in management is a tory invention My missus worked as a nurse for the NHS I'm sure it was in excess of a 300% rise in management
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Originally Posted by Elvira
You should hear American docs bleating on about "inadequate remuneration"...
Well. Look at the costs of a medical degree here compared to the UK. I'd think they're much better off over there!
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Old Jun 1st 2007, 3:31 am
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Then malpractice insurance wouldn't be an issue.
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Originally Posted by Elvira
What does it matter - in the US, any young person with a serious chronic condition faces similar problems once they lose their parents' health insurance.
My youngest son also has a chronic condition since he was a child (Asthma)
but in his case, he was able to get his own insurance once he entered the work force. Guess thats why I asked about your son, and your worries about his future insurance.
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Old Jun 1st 2007, 4:23 am
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Originally Posted by southern comfort
My youngest son also has a chronic condition since he was a child (Asthma)
but in his case, he was able to get his own insurance once he entered the work force. Guess thats why I asked about your son, and your worries about his future insurance.
not everyone is lucky enough to either find a proper job straight out of gradution, or if they do, have a place that offers medical to new hires straight off the bat, which often puts you out hippa protection when you do get new medical insurance.
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Originally Posted by southern comfort
My youngest son also has a chronic condition since he was a child (Asthma)
but in his case, he was able to get his own insurance once he entered the work force. Guess thats why I asked about your son, and your worries about his future insurance.
Asthma is a condition that many children outgrow completely and for those who do not, often lessens in severity in adulthood. Every chronic condition has its own unique pattern of typical age of onset and typical course(s) of the illness over a lifetime.
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Originally Posted by snowbunny
Asthma is a condition that many children outgrow completely and for those who do not, often lessens in severity in adulthood. Every chronic condition has its own unique pattern of typical age of onset and typical course(s) of the illness over a lifetime.
Thats not completely true it all depends on the triggers for attacks, the place you live all sorts can increase/decrease the severity age doesn't for a chronic asthmatic
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Originally Posted by Thydney
Thats not completely true it all depends on the triggers for attacks, the place you live all sorts can increase/decrease the severity age doesn't for a chronic asthmatic
Yes, I agree.... I said "many" though, not all.

And some of the factors that trigger attacks can be avoided -- eg allergens, cold air (yes, this induces asthma in me), moving away from pollution if possible. I'm not trying to make light of asthma -- it's horrid and it can kill -- but from an insurer's perspective it isn't going to be nearly as expensive as say, diabetes -- and no one grows out of Type I diabetes.
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What's the situation with genetic conditions ... can they sting you on family history?

I presume group cover wouldn't matter, but what about individual policies?
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Originally Posted by Tootsie Frickensprinkles
What's the situation with genetic conditions ... can they sting you on family history?

I presume group cover wouldn't matter, but what about individual policies?
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Old Jun 1st 2007, 2:22 pm
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Originally Posted by Tootsie Frickensprinkles
What's the situation with genetic conditions ... can they sting you on family history?

I presume group cover wouldn't matter, but what about individual policies?
dont mention it. just tell them you hve no family history of any illnesses nor do you smoke and drink. please tell me you didnt tell them about previous family problems?
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Originally Posted by leonatlanta
dont mention it. just tell them you hve no family history of any illnesses nor do you smoke and drink. please tell me you didnt tell them about previous family problems?
No wonder you've got such good affordable insurance cover!
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Originally Posted by snowbunny
No wonder you've got such good affordable insurance cover!
i actually told "them" that i have an occasional drink. my wife gave me an earful down the phone! people do not ever tell these insurance people about any health issues that they can not ever possibly know about. they are not your friends they are there to weed sick/unhealthy people/distant relatives out.
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Originally Posted by leonatlanta
dont mention it. just tell them you hve no family history of any illnesses nor do you smoke and drink. please tell me you didnt tell them about previous family problems?
Think about that mate ... not real helpful when your doctors are trying to risk assess you is it?! It's also the quickest way to have insurance companies refuse to pay out.

And, not necessarily easy to pull off .. Oh, I dont know what my parents/brothers/sisters died of. Unless of course you really dont.

Oh, and I don't have to, I don't live in the US.
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