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Re: Help wanted WW2!
Originally Posted by SouthernGent
(Post 5406389)
To the coworkers who claim Brits would be speaking German, consider a reply of "Maybe, but so might be you!"
After all, we in the US have to right to be proud of the fighting done in the war by our parents and grandparents. It was no easy victory: we lost over 400,000. The British, with good reason, have every right to be just as proud. It was our partnership with England gave the struggle a chance for victory. We all owe a debt of gratitude to those throughout the world who maintained resistance and stood their ground when and where they could. Ask your friends if they would prefer to live in a world dominated by totalitarian German and the Japanese Empires? They should remember with whom US troops were fighting. They need to ponder how many more US soldiers would have been lost without Ultra. What if the Germans developed the Bomb and deployed it on an isolationist US mainland? I wonder what would prompt a co-worker to say something like that? maybe a reaction to statements like:
Originally Posted by Triumphrob
(Post 5384575)
Why are Americans so stupid?
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Re: Help wanted WW2!
Originally Posted by SouthernGent
(Post 5406389)
To the coworkers who claim Brits would be speaking German, consider a reply of "Maybe, but so might be you!"
After all, we in the US have to right to be proud of the fighting done in the war by our parents and grandparents. It was no easy victory: we lost over 400,000. you could also add.."And we might even have lost as many as the other allied countries if we'd been there at the beginning". The British, with good reason, have every right to be just as proud. Or considering we were there at the begining and stopped ourselves from speaking German by knocking the Luftwaffe out of the skies.... maybe have the right to be even more proud. It was our partnership with England gave the struggle a chance for victory. We all owe a debt of gratitude to those throughout the world who maintained resistance and stood their ground when and where they could. Except the french...they're just a bunch of garlic eating bastards. Ask your friends if they would prefer to live in a world dominated by totalitarian German and the Japanese Empires? Yes, imagine today they would have the pressures of having to drive an Audi, BMW, Mercedes or VW and have healthcare living in a decent clean and modern country, fortunately they were so lucky they ended up with a Chevy Cavalier, no healthcare and George Bush. They should remember with whom US troops were fighting. They need to ponder how many more US soldiers would have been lost without Ultra. True, they might have lost nearly as much as the other allies lost What if the Germans developed the Bomb and deployed it on an isolationist US mainland? Yes indeed!! Thank God the RAF were bombing the crap out of the German munitions factories and weapons research centres as the U boats patrolled up and down the Eastern seaboard while Uncle Sam had a smaller armed forces than Romania and 10,000 cavalry horses |
Re: Help wanted WW2!
Originally Posted by Rushman
(Post 5407072)
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Re: Help wanted WW2!
Originally Posted by SouthernGent
(Post 5406389)
To the coworkers who claim Brits would be speaking German, consider a reply of "Maybe, but so might be you!"
After all, we in the US have to right to be proud of the fighting done in the war by our parents and grandparents. It was no easy victory: we lost over 400,000. The British, with good reason, have every right to be just as proud. It was our partnership with England gave the struggle a chance for victory. We all owe a debt of gratitude to those throughout the world who maintained resistance and stood their ground when and where they could. Ask your friends if they would prefer to live in a world dominated by totalitarian German and the Japanese Empires? They should remember with whom US troops were fighting. They need to ponder how many more US soldiers would have been lost without Ultra. What if the Germans developed the Bomb and deployed it on an isolationist US mainland? |
Re: Help wanted WW2!
Try this response;
"If it wasn't for the fact that the USA dropped two Nuclear Bombs on Japan, you'd all be driving around in Japanese Cars right now. Oh, hang on.......you already are!":eek: Jim. |
Re: Help wanted WW2!
Originally Posted by Scouse Express
(Post 5409450)
Try this response;
"If it wasn't for the fact that the USA dropped two Nuclear Bombs on Japan, you'd all be driving around in Japanese Cars right now. Oh, hang on.......you already are!":eek: Jim. |
Re: Help wanted WW2!
WHOA THERE!!! What a crock of shite!! You're making it sound like you were all there ready willing and able from the get go and entered the war "on time" to do us a favour. May I remind you that WW1 started in 1914 for some of us and not 1917 when Germany adopted a policy of unrestricted submarine warfare including sinking passenger liners they thought were carrying US munitions to Britain . The US didnt have any thoughts towards "coming over and helping to sort things out" at all...utter cobblers. The US entered the war because German U-boats were openly targeting your merchant shipping and British shipping that were ...<<Ahem>> flying old Glory on the jack mast.
hold on a second here you seem to be trying to Insult Americans for not jumping into both world wars . But i agree with alot of the stuff u say but not jumping into both the wars was Smart NOT Cowardly or Dumm . WW1 was a war that was European powers needlessly fighting . the only role America should have ever had was selling both sides of the conflict guns and making off like bandits cash wise . if anything the US should have never joined the war at all . My theory goes like this . if the US wouldn't have came into WW1 the allies would have lost in a stalemate the Germans would have gained a few miles of French wine country . neither side would have gained Much . But there never would be a Franco British Verselles treaty Germany would never have been humiliated and Germans would have never Turned to Hitler . the soviets would have never been able to Loot Eastern Europe and thus wouldn't have been a superpower . the western European empires would have been in constant conflict trying to hold back Revolutions in there colonies all over the globe . thus another chance for the US to do business . So no WW2 No Cold War . but wait it gets better .... Islamic Terrorism would there be any pointed at the US ? or would it all be pointed at western Europe were there imperial masters would have been ? so all and all i don't think Isolationism is anything the US should be ashamed of . If anything its to bad a current leaders are not as wise as are founding fathers But i feel many Brits Forget that the US had no hand in Starting or setting the condtions that led to either of the World wars and since we were far eough away not to feel threaten . why would any of u if u were american living in the 10s or 30s and had no Knowlege of the history of the wars as u do now . how many of you would been in a huge hurry to die in the fighting or wanting to send your sons brothers and fathers over ?? |
Re: Help wanted WW2!
Originally Posted by Michaelmike5556
(Post 5421122)
hold on a second here you seem to be trying to Insult Americans for not jumping into both world wars . But i agree with alot of the stuff u say but not jumping into both the wars was Smart NOT Cowardly or Dumm .
Originally Posted by Michaelmike5556
(Post 5421122)
My theory goes like this . if the US wouldn't have came into WW1 the allies would have lost in a stalemate the Germans would have gained a few miles of French wine country . neither side would have gained Much .
the soviets would have never been able to Loot Eastern Europe and thus wouldn't have been a superpower . the western European empires would have been in constant conflict trying to hold back Revolutions in there colonies all over the globe . thus another chance for the US to do business . So no WW2.[/QUOTE]So how do you presume that an isolationist country such as the USA would have become a superpower without WW2?
Originally Posted by Michaelmike5556
(Post 5421122)
. why would any of u if u were american living in the 10s or 30s and had no Knowlege of the history of the wars as u do now .
how many of you would been in a huge hurry to die in the fighting or wanting to send your sons brothers and fathers over ?? It is reassuringly refreshing though to read that as ( I assume) an American you think the US should have just sat back and profitted from all the death's and destruction caused in both wars instead of fighting for the freedoms and democracy it pretends to hold so dear. |
Re: Help wanted WW2!
Actually, I was pointing out that while this country is forever banging on about democracy and freedom and the preservation of them, they were a exceedingly slow in putting their money where there mouths are in both 1914 and in 1939. Why? Because if you are a country that states everywhere that you are based and live according to the principles of freedom and democracy then you have to stand up and protect those freedoms. Like Britain (and the US didn't) did when Hitlers invaded Poland and took their freedom. the US and UK were just two bad Empires in there own right fighting a few much much worse empires . so the point i am making is that trying to turn the world wars into some kind of Good vs evil lord of the rings thing is beyond dumb. also the only people that can claim to have saved the world from the Nazis are the ones who fought in the WAR so i didn't. and i assume most people on this board didn't so we are not responsible for the victory over the Third riech no more than a Japanese guy born in 1984 is responsible for Pearle harbor . maybe an argument between my grandfather and an old English vet would be more in order |
Re: Help wanted WW2!
no more than a Japanese guy born in 1984 is responsible for Pearle harbor . |
Re: Help wanted WW2!
Originally Posted by Michaelmike5556
(Post 5421438)
but who ever was guilty of the movie pearl harbor should be tracked down .
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Re: Help wanted WW2!
Originally Posted by Michaelmike5556
(Post 5421364)
First to say that WW1 was about freedom is a joke both England and France had Huge Empires that were no were near free .
Not sure who we were trying to free, or if Britain can claim any moral high ground for that one or if any of the men who fought believed it was a worthwhile cause. There have been a lot of books written to futility of it, like "Goodbye to all that" |
Re: Help wanted WW2!
Originally Posted by lisag8070
(Post 5312423)
My OH always says "yea, forgot Yanks could re-write history",
and "hmmm, what happened at Pearl Harbour then...?" My grandad never liked the yanks during WW2 and whenever he talked about the war all he ever said about the yanks was: Over sexed Overpaid and over here Under sexed Underpaid and under Eisenhower :rofl::rofl::rofl: |
Re: Help wanted WW2!
Originally Posted by Jabba1
(Post 5422387)
And Brit soldiers were:
Under sexed Underpaid and under Eisenhower :rofl::rofl::rofl: |
Re: Help wanted WW2!
if the US would have gotten involved as soon as the UK did the allies might have lost . Think about it if the US would have declared war on the Axis the same time the UK did the war could have ended up being a stalemate . the Germans might not has made the blunder of invading the Russia . this would have lead to a stalemate .
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