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Hey Guys
I am getting so fed up with the "If it wasnt for the US you would all be speaking German" brigade at work. I need some comebacks that will make them look like the propergander believing twats they are!
Rob

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Well you could try something along the lines of "and if it wasn't for us you'd all be speaking Spanish" although that requires a knowledge of the colonization of the US and loses something given they are reverting to that anyhow. ;)

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:lol: thats true.

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Try: "You've got the cognitive reasoning ability of a three year old."

BTW, Yanks saying that makes me wince. It's such a childish, playground type thing to say.

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Mach es dir selber
Deine mutter hat haarige arschbacken
Du bist doch dumm wie Brot
Seh ich deine fette Freundin, denke ich Deutsche Panzer rollen wieder.
Das einzig interesseante an deiner Lebensgeschichte ist, wie du aus dem Versuchslabor entkommen bist

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You might inform them that Germany declared war on the U. S., and not the other way around, which is something most Americans probably don't know. On the other hand you might tell British participants in these infantile pissing matches to quit repeating the lie that the U. S. profited from Lend Lease, or even that much of it was repaid, or that Marshall Plan aid was a loan rather than an outright grant.

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Enigma machine

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I was going to say tell them to look up Bletchley Park. Should at least keep them busy for a while.

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Ive never heard any Brits talking about the land lease. Its just always Americans smugly patting themselves on the back at work. Another coment that I hate is "second world war, your welcome"
Twats, go and do some reasearch...
I am looking for the ultimate comeback that will shut these arrogant pricks up once and foe all.
Thanks for the input so far guys
Rob

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You might want to remind them nevermind WW2; if it wasn't for them, we wouldn't have the disaster in Iraq right now. Or in Vietnam in the 60's/70's.....

Resounding military geniuses that they are...

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My OH always says "yea, forgot Yanks could re-write history",
and "hmmm, what happened at Pearl Harbour then...?"

My grandad never liked the yanks during WW2 and whenever he talked about the war all he ever said about the yanks was:

Over sexed
Overpaid
and over here

Oh and he called them bullet sponges (coz their idea of fighting in the war was to throw as many people at the front line as possible and use no strategy whatsoever)

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How 'bout:

"Says who, fatso? Germany went off and got in real deep do-do with the soviets way before the Japanese caught you with your pants down. The US didn't do much at the siege of Stalingrad did they, Hmm?. You're just a bunch of Johnny-come-lately glory seekers really."

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I realize that this is a bit of a sore point with you, but based upon the historical facts of the war, do you honestly believe that the Commonwealth would have been able to defeat the Germans without outside help? The numbers make it pretty obvious that this wasn't the case.

WWI makes a good case study. There, the whole thing was a big awful stalemate until the US turned the tide. In the case of WWII, I would imagine that Britain would have been isolated (I doubt that the Germans could have mounted a successful invasion, thanks to the sleeve standing between them and the coast of France), while the Germans would have been eventually defeated by the Soviets, thereafter paving the way for the whole of the continent being absorbed into a mega-Warsaw Pact.

In other words, the Brits would have been speaking English. But the French and the rest of their neighbors would have been able to look down their noses at you while insulting you in Russian. Vive la resistance.

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Like it!

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I wasnt saying the US didnt play a big part. Im saying most Americans blindly think it was all them and no one else had any help at all. They were part of the allies.
However since then they havnt done well have they?

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The key word here is "help" - the problem, I believe, that we have is that these Americans believe their country was the only reason the war ended as it did and it's a bit more complicated than that. They also forget the fact that they pretty much kept out of it as much as they could until it suited their own needs.

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I suspect that the US had enough manpower and materiel to win alone in Europe with minimal help, as was largely the case in the Pacific. Yes, it would have been bloodier, more painful and taken a lot longer, and no, that does not denigrate the efforts of all of the other Allies. But nonetheless, the US would have won eventually just so long as it had the UK to serve as a large immobile aircraft carrier from which to establish a beachhead.

The whole thing sounds like your co-workers are just taking the piss. Since they probably don't know much about the UK aside from England being in London (or something like that) and the Queen looking like Helen Mirren, they probably don't have much material to work with. Make fun of McDonald's or something, you'll come up with a potshot or two, I'm sure...

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I would swing the conversation round to French military history - let them go off on the whole "surrender monkeys" thing and then when someone asks if there have ever been any famous French military victories, say "Yorktown".
:lol:

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Oh dear I can see this thread ending up to be a bit of Yank bashing :sneaky: but you are right those stupid comments get right up our nose's, blimey I poor island was bombed to f**k for two year's before the Yanks decided to step in, and I believe our Gran parents would of bloody well fought on the Beaches till the very end, like dear old Churchill said.

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As this thread proves so elegantly, you Brits rise beautifully to this canard. It's great, one mention of Der Fatherland and y'all start blustering. Why should we not use it?

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Its not just co workers (although they are bad) A lot of Americans I meet come up with this nonsense. If I suggest the Battle of Britain had a large influence over the outcome of the war I get a blank look, they never heard of it.
I guess propergander is alive and well!

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just waiting for Rushman and Dakota to find this thread

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exactly, but i hear it all the time and it's so :zzz::zzz:

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i think the key is was hitler getting a bit bored with the idea of operation sealion and deciding to give stalin a smack.

IMO we would be part of a big warsaw pact as another poster mentioned.....

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I'm not surprised that they haven't heard of it, but be that as it may, I'd say that it's debatable that the Battle of Britain affected the actual outcome of the war, i.e. the Germans losing.

If you believe that the Germans could have been defeated solely by the Soviets (as I do), then no, I'd say that the Battle of Britain was certainly a turning point for the western Allies, but for the Germans, the outcome was the same, it was just a question who would have defeated them, and how long it would have taken. (Surely, the war would have lasted a lot longer without either the Soviets or the Americans participating.)

In my mind, the definitive turning points in Europe were El Alamein, Stalingrad and Normandy. The Allied bombing campaign wasn't a turning point per se, but it caused the Germans enough destruction and diverted resources to affect their ability to carry on.

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Let me turn this back to mt original question. I need some smart one liners to get them to shut up.....
Come on, were meant to be the witty Brits :o
Rob

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that wasn't a whim or spur of the moment decision - it was possibly the single most important underlying reason why WW2 happened in the first place: From a military/strategic viewpoint everything the Nazis did was done with one thing in mind: conquering the Soviet Union to provide the German people with their "lebensraum" in the east. It was one of the main pillars of the Nazi philosophy and all laid out in Mein Kampf.

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you could try my suggestion in Post 18

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I know, I was being flippant :-)

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You could try "Your mother was a hamster and your father smelled of elderberries" :rofl:

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we need awp for this one aka old william :thumbup:

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"Perhaps if you remembered what it was you did back then you might be able to finish some more wars"

Edit - maybe add on the end "or did you just get lucky".

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I'm sure Rushman will help you out later mate.

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:lol: very good.

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Bloody great, cant wait to try that one

Rob :D:D

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Tell them that a gay mathematician and the son of a bricklayer did more to end the war than most of the Americans. I think that factually holds up based on what I've researched.

On a side note about the battle of Britain, there were a number of US pilots flying for the RAF and I don't think it would have been won by us without them. In that way Americans could argue a reasonable case, however they were doing it without the authority of the US government and were told they would loose their citizenship by fighting with the British and I don't think many Americans know any of that story.

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Those SEVEN American pilots who took part in the battle of Britain must have been pretty special.

http://www.raf.mod.uk/bob1940/roll.html

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You and your silly, knees-bent, running about, advancing behavior.

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"..Would that be with a G or a J?..."

"...Well at least it would be proper German...."

"...Do you even know where Germany is on the map?!?..."

"...Mostly likely you would c*ck up that language too..."

"... if it weren't for us - you wouldn't be here in the first place..." (don't start on the lecture.)

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Your all electric donkey bottom wipers! No go away less I taunt you a sec ond time........