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Old Aug 11th 2006, 9:21 pm
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Well I'll have to find one when I get home. John McCririck's arse comes to mind.

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ooh err misses......... a virtual toy boy...........how lovely
I'm getting a bit hot ere might well have to go and do what TruBrit said.
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I'm getting a bit hot ere might well have to go and do what TruBrit said.
next it'll be virtual knicker throwing.........

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Originally Posted by Tolos
Incidentally, let me make this perfectly clear. If I was ever on board a plane, and saw some muslim looking guy in the middle of something suspicious (ie a battery and some wires) I have no shame in saying I would beat the living shit out of the guy until his face resembled lasagne.
What if he didn't look Muslim-looking? What if it was a white guy? Or a woman? Are you limiting your actions to only people who "look Muslim" (whatever that means) or to anyone who looks suspicious?

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Originally Posted by Married2aYank
I was wondering if anyone thinks that in light of these terrorist threats coming from England, and of course the idiots who are doing it being English, is going to cast all Brits in a bad light in the USA? I dont want to be viewed as a suspicious outsider over here and be subject to harsher treatment from whoever just because I have a thick accent like the Muslims they broadcasted in their suicide videos on TV last night.
I agree with other posters here. British Muslims will be the most effected.

Most people in my office were concerned that I may have family flying over but luckily they won't be flying for a few months.
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Old Aug 12th 2006, 4:51 pm
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Originally Posted by Jenney & Mark
What if he didn't look Muslim-looking? What if it was a white guy? Or a woman? Are you limiting your actions to only people who "look Muslim" (whatever that means) or to anyone who looks suspicious?

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My ex-boss used to travel to the Middle East a lot on business. She said it always freaked her out when she was seated next to Arab women in full black jilbabs. She said they could have anything under there, and the security people at the Middle East airports don't really check the women.

My own experience was totally different on the one occasion I went to Dubai on holiday. I don't know about the more fundamentalist Muslim nations, but in Dubai the security people were being more strict with the women in large loose clothing and they were all ushered into a women-only area for body searches

Seems to me that countries like the UK don't harass such women for fear of being called racist, whereas in their own countries they are singled out routinely.
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Originally Posted by cinnabar
My own experience was totally different on the one occasion I went to Dubai on holiday. I don't know about the more fundamentalist Muslim nations, but in Dubai the security people were being more strict with the women in large loose clothing and they were all ushered into a women-only area for body searches
I was more interested in the fact that Tolos said he would beat someone to a bloody pulp who was suspicious and "Muslim-looking".

Suspicious-looking I can understand, but I'm not sure what qualifies as "Muslim-looking". Just because someone wears a hijab or something similar doesn't mean they're Muslim. Likewise, Muslims aren't always Arabic or wear turbans or have long beards. That's why I questioned his comments.

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Old Aug 12th 2006, 5:34 pm
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Originally Posted by Jenney & Mark
I was more interested in the fact that Tolos said he would beat someone to a bloody pulp who was suspicious and "Muslim-looking".
Unfair comment Jenney ..he did add something like ..playing with batteries and wires... that changed the whole story ...
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All I have got from this is that each American I talk to praises the British security and tells me that if it had ben over the attacks would have gone through. From what I have seen on my many flights to the UK they are probably right. I found security at US airports lax compared to the UK ones.
You have to remember that there are lots of US citizens who are as suspicious.
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Old Aug 12th 2006, 6:16 pm
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Originally Posted by Married2aYank
I was wondering if anyone thinks that in light of these terrorist threats coming from England, and of course the idiots who are doing it being English, is going to cast all Brits in a bad light in the USA?
In ethnic terms, recent reports show that only one of them was fully English, one was half-English and half-Iranian, and the other twenty-odd were Pakistanis with British citizenship.

I like to think most Americans realise the threat is not likely to be found in the average "English" Somerset tea-room. Let's not forget that while the term "British" is a legal term and can be endowed on someone, the term "English" relates to an ethnic grouping teutonic in base, as opposed to say "Irish" which relates to the Celtic ethnic group.
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Originally Posted by tableland
In ethnic terms, recent reports show that only one of them was fully English, one was half-English and half-Iranian, and the other twenty-odd were Pakistanis with British citizenship.

I like to think most Americans realise the threat is not likely to be found in the average "English" Somerset tea-room. Let's not forget that while the term "British" is a legal term and can be endowed on someone, the term "English" relates to an ethnic grouping teutonic in base, as opposed to say "Irish" which relates to the Celtic ethnic group.
What about the Welsh!

I think most Americans use the term British and English interchangably, some are perhaps aware of the Pakistani Community in the UK, but would not use either term to include them as a general term.

Wonder how long the VWP will last?
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Originally Posted by tableland
In ethnic terms, recent reports show that only one of them was fully English, one was half-English and half-Iranian, and the other twenty-odd were Pakistanis with British citizenship.

I like to think most Americans realise the threat is not likely to be found in the average "English" Somerset tea-room. Let's not forget that while the term "British" is a legal term and can be endowed on someone, the term "English" relates to an ethnic grouping teutonic in base, as opposed to say "Irish" which relates to the Celtic ethnic group.
Phew, what a relief ... I think I can qualify as "Irish" there (dark hair, blue eyes, Irish grandparents on one side).

Fortunately there have never been any Irish terrorists, as far as Americans are concerned, so I should be fine.

Begorrah.
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Originally Posted by cinnabar
Fortunately there have never been any Irish terrorists, as far as Americans are concerned, so I should be fine.
Everytime I hear US Politicians bleat about world support for the was against terrorism I can not help think how times have changed.
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Originally Posted by Boiler
What about the Welsh!

I think most Americans use the term British and English interchangably, some are perhaps aware of the Pakistani Community in the UK, but would not use either term to include them as a general term.

Wonder how long the VWP will last?
You're kidding right? Britain and England are both in London. You foreigners are so ignorant. Pity you didn't get the opportunity to go to our schools!
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Originally Posted by Boiler
Everytime I hear US Politicians bleat about world support for the was against terrorism I can not help think how times have changed.

haha wasn't it the red carpet treatment for gerry adams
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