WTF in America Part 2
#361
The number of 'God and guns' bumper stickers in this state should go a long way toward explaining why state politicians haven't seen the right sort of pressure.
I'm not overly sure that the state is sourcing from the larger pharmaceutical companies, rather they engage small compounding pharmacies to supply them with small batches that are made in-house. Regulations are a lot less strict for compounding pharmacies than they are for pharmaceutical manufacturers and small mom and pop stores tend to fly under the public radar.
I'm not overly convinced about the credibility of the witness in this case but have been following the case of Marcellus Williams, Missouri, on and off for some years now. The prosecutors and family have been calling for the state not to kill him, rather than invest time and money into the case the Governor gave the go ahead for his murder on Tuesday saying that 'it gives finality for a case that's languished for decades'. Absolutely unbelievable.
I'm not overly sure that the state is sourcing from the larger pharmaceutical companies, rather they engage small compounding pharmacies to supply them with small batches that are made in-house. Regulations are a lot less strict for compounding pharmacies than they are for pharmaceutical manufacturers and small mom and pop stores tend to fly under the public radar.
I'm not overly convinced about the credibility of the witness in this case but have been following the case of Marcellus Williams, Missouri, on and off for some years now. The prosecutors and family have been calling for the state not to kill him, rather than invest time and money into the case the Governor gave the go ahead for his murder on Tuesday saying that 'it gives finality for a case that's languished for decades'. Absolutely unbelievable.
The condemned person has three choices for execution method. If the pharmaceutical companies stopped selling the drug that allowed one method, why could they not just use the other two?
I mean, I don't want them to use any method but if they want the death penalty, what was wrong with offering the choice of two?
Is there some weird set-in-stone amendment that says they must have a choice of three or they don't get one at all?
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#366
This feels like it should be a Florida story, but it's not, it's from SC, South Carolina, not North!
A man, with an unspecified open investigation by the SLED (the SC state police) was being pursued by a sheriff's deputy when his vehicle, Chevy Suburban (large SUV) veered into the path of a logging tractor trailer. The driver being pursued was killed in the crash.
That's all very well, and sadly not remarkable in the US, so why did I post about this story? The dead driver was the town mayor of McColl, SC. I'm sure he was a fine upstanding citizen and the SLED investigation and sheriff pursuit were just unfortunate misunderstandings.
A man, with an unspecified open investigation by the SLED (the SC state police) was being pursued by a sheriff's deputy when his vehicle, Chevy Suburban (large SUV) veered into the path of a logging tractor trailer. The driver being pursued was killed in the crash.
That's all very well, and sadly not remarkable in the US, so why did I post about this story? The dead driver was the town mayor of McColl, SC. I'm sure he was a fine upstanding citizen and the SLED investigation and sheriff pursuit were just unfortunate misunderstandings.
Last edited by Pulaski; Dec 2nd 2024 at 8:46 am.
#367
This feels like it should be a Florida story, but it's not, it's from SC, South Carolina, not North!
A man, with an unspecified open investigation by the SLED (the SC state police) was being pursued by a sheriff's deputy when his vehicle, Chevy Suburban (large SUV) veered into the path of a logging tractor trailer. The driver being pursued was killed in the crash.
https://youtu.be/SwgHBIz1sAo?si=lk4vYnJ8gjrWvMvc
That's all very well, and sadly not remarkable in the US, so why did I post about this story? The dead driver was the town mayor of McColl, SC. I'm sure he was a fine upstanding citizen and the SLED investigation and sheriff pursuit were just unfortunate misunderstandings.
A man, with an unspecified open investigation by the SLED (the SC state police) was being pursued by a sheriff's deputy when his vehicle, Chevy Suburban (large SUV) veered into the path of a logging tractor trailer. The driver being pursued was killed in the crash.
https://youtu.be/SwgHBIz1sAo?si=lk4vYnJ8gjrWvMvc
That's all very well, and sadly not remarkable in the US, so why did I post about this story? The dead driver was the town mayor of McColl, SC. I'm sure he was a fine upstanding citizen and the SLED investigation and sheriff pursuit were just unfortunate misunderstandings.

#368
#369
Yup, methinks there's a lot more WTFery to this story than has been reported.
#370
This feels like it should be a Florida story, but was almost as far away as possible from Florida, at least within the contiguous 48 states. So two men died, apparently of exposure, in Washington state, while out searching for sasquatch (bigfoot) in a National Forest. 

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This feels like it should be a Florida story, but was almost as far away as possible from Florida, at least within the contiguous 48 states. So two men died, apparently of exposure, in Washington state, while out searching for sasquatch (bigfoot) in a National Forest. 
https://youtu.be/JrXgFwx2S4Q?si=kp6sl-xFWnjZNZMF

https://youtu.be/JrXgFwx2S4Q?si=kp6sl-xFWnjZNZMF
https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-our-...ource=facebook
Two nights ago, after completing a grueling 3-day mission starting Christmas morning to recover the remains of two lost hikers, thieves targeted our Search and Rescue team. While our exhausted volunteers were finally resting at home, our storage yard was broken into. Thieves cut through a 10-foot barbed wire fence and stole critical lifesaving equipment from our trailers.
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If you shop at Aldi, please be careful before just sticking your hand in the refrigerator. There might be a hungry coyote in there.
https://nypost.com/2025/01/14/us-new...g-video-shows/
https://nypost.com/2025/01/14/us-new...g-video-shows/
Shoppers in a Chicago supermarket had a reason to howl when a coyote was yanked out of the refrigerated section by a pair of officers — with the hair-raising moment caught on video.
The Aldi grocery store in the Windy City’s Humboldt Park neighborhood was like something out of a cartoon Monday as authorities used broomsticks to poke around shelves,
The Aldi grocery store in the Windy City’s Humboldt Park neighborhood was like something out of a cartoon Monday as authorities used broomsticks to poke around shelves,
#373
#374
Perhaps you have some idea about my other question relating to this.
The condemned person has three choices for execution method. If the pharmaceutical companies stopped selling the drug that allowed one method, why could they not just use the other two?
I mean, I don't want them to use any method but if they want the death penalty, what was wrong with offering the choice of two?
Is there some weird set-in-stone amendment that says they must have a choice of three or they don't get one at all?
The condemned person has three choices for execution method. If the pharmaceutical companies stopped selling the drug that allowed one method, why could they not just use the other two?
I mean, I don't want them to use any method but if they want the death penalty, what was wrong with offering the choice of two?
Is there some weird set-in-stone amendment that says they must have a choice of three or they don't get one at all?

I am not a lawyer, but I believe that offering the convict a choice of methods is part of the strategy to stop the convict claiming that execution is cruel and unusual by saying "well he chose the method of execution himself."
With the drugs becoming hard, and now apparently impossible to obtain, other methods are being considered, but given the brutality of the electric chair, which is neither quick nor painless, and may lead to death by burning, not electrocution, I don't see much liklihood of that ever being used again. I think one state (Arizona?) added firing squad as an alternative (it has always been an option in Utah, famously chosen by Gary Gilmore, who was the first execution when it was reintroduced in 1976), but other new innovative methods are apparently being considered, such as nitrogen asphyxiation, which I think has already been used at least once.
Last edited by Pulaski; Jan 14th 2025 at 11:30 am.
#375
The methods are set at the state level, but the US Supreme Court gets to rule on wherher a method is constitutionally prohibited for being "cruel and unusual", which is why the "medical cocktail" of sedative, knock-out drug and then potassium chloride to stop the heart, have been used almost universally since executions recommenced in 1976. Those drugs cause the convict to relax, fall asleep, and die, so not at all cruel or unusual.
I am not a lawyer, but I believe that offering the convict a choice of methods is part of the strategy to stop the convict claiming that execution is cruel and unusual by saying "well he chose the method of execution himself."
With the drugs becoming hard, and now apparently impossible to obtain, other methods are being considered, but given the brutality of the electric chair, which is neither quick nor painless, and may lead to death by burning, not electrocution, I don't see much liklihood of that ever being used again. I think one state (Arizona?) added firing squad as an alternative (it has always been an option in Utah, famously chosen by Gary Gilmore, who was the first execution when it was reintroduced in 1976), but other new innovative methods are apparently being considered, such as nitrogen asphyxiation, which I think has already been used at least once.
I am not a lawyer, but I believe that offering the convict a choice of methods is part of the strategy to stop the convict claiming that execution is cruel and unusual by saying "well he chose the method of execution himself."
With the drugs becoming hard, and now apparently impossible to obtain, other methods are being considered, but given the brutality of the electric chair, which is neither quick nor painless, and may lead to death by burning, not electrocution, I don't see much liklihood of that ever being used again. I think one state (Arizona?) added firing squad as an alternative (it has always been an option in Utah, famously chosen by Gary Gilmore, who was the first execution when it was reintroduced in 1976), but other new innovative methods are apparently being considered, such as nitrogen asphyxiation, which I think has already been used at least once.




