What was the biggest culture shock when you moved to the USA?
#121
Re: What was the biggest culture shock when you moved to the USA?
one thing that keeps catching me out even now (9 years in) is that so many cultural references are completely nothing to me. I dont mean current pop culture - but the kind of thing like Morecambe and Wise, Paul Daniels, The Multi colored swap shop etc. You know them from your childhood and know exactly what is being referenced by the name or situation BUT cannot recognize or have any context for the equivalent in the USA as i didnt grow up with it and it wasnt part of British Culture. So people reference these equivalents in the US and it means absolutely nothing to me. That does feel weird when everyone else is misty eyed or in hysterics etc at the reference.
And the reverse is also true - there are situations where i want to use a popular catchphrase/joke/reference from back in the day - but its just not worth it as it will go right over peoples heads here.
And the reverse is also true - there are situations where i want to use a popular catchphrase/joke/reference from back in the day - but its just not worth it as it will go right over peoples heads here.
#122
Re: What was the biggest culture shock when you moved to the USA?
one thing that keeps catching me out even now (9 years in) is that so many cultural references are completely nothing to me. I dont mean current pop culture - but the kind of thing like Morecambe and Wise, Paul Daniels, The Multi colored swap shop etc. You know them from your childhood and know exactly what is being referenced by the name or situation BUT cannot recognize or have any context for the equivalent in the USA as i didnt grow up with it and it wasnt part of British Culture. So people reference these equivalents in the US and it means absolutely nothing to me. That does feel weird when everyone else is misty eyed or in hysterics etc at the reference.
And the reverse is also true - there are situations where i want to use a popular catchphrase/joke/reference from back in the day - but its just not worth it as it will go right over peoples heads here.
And the reverse is also true - there are situations where i want to use a popular catchphrase/joke/reference from back in the day - but its just not worth it as it will go right over peoples heads here.
I'm originally from West London, and when I hear young Londoners talking I can barely understand them. Even more so anyone from the Tyneside.
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Re: What was the biggest culture shock when you moved to the USA?
I was very surprised to discover that no, they really, truly mean it, and that most of them genuinely believe the universe is being controlled by a supernatural being. Not in that UK slightly self-effacing 'well, no one really knows of course, but I like to think...' way, but wholeheartedly, and openly talk about it as total fact.
#125
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This! I knew intellectually that the US was very church-going, but had assumed it was more of a cultural, social thing to be part of the community, a bit like going to a UK church for the Carol Service and the mince pie party afterwards even if you're an atheist.
I was very surprised to discover that no, they really, truly mean it, and that most of them genuinely believe the universe is being controlled by a supernatural being. Not in that UK slightly self-effacing 'well, no one really knows of course, but I like to think...' way, but wholeheartedly, and openly talk about it as total fact.
I was very surprised to discover that no, they really, truly mean it, and that most of them genuinely believe the universe is being controlled by a supernatural being. Not in that UK slightly self-effacing 'well, no one really knows of course, but I like to think...' way, but wholeheartedly, and openly talk about it as total fact.
#126
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Re: What was the biggest culture shock when you moved to the USA?
There are a few of these in New Zealand:
#127
Re: What was the biggest culture shock when you moved to the USA?
This! I knew intellectually that the US was very church-going, but had assumed it was more of a cultural, social thing to be part of the community, a bit like going to a UK church for the Carol Service and the mince pie party afterwards even if you're an atheist.
I was very surprised to discover that no, they really, truly mean it, and that most of them genuinely believe the universe is being controlled by a supernatural being. Not in that UK slightly self-effacing 'well, no one really knows of course, but I like to think...' way, but wholeheartedly, and openly talk about it as total fact.
I was very surprised to discover that no, they really, truly mean it, and that most of them genuinely believe the universe is being controlled by a supernatural being. Not in that UK slightly self-effacing 'well, no one really knows of course, but I like to think...' way, but wholeheartedly, and openly talk about it as total fact.
#128
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Re: What was the biggest culture shock when you moved to the USA?
That's not just confined to the US though, there are nutjobs all around the world. Case in point - Derek Acorah, David Icke, Uri Geller ...
#129
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Oh yes. Also people who believe in ghosts, that aliens abduct people (although I do think there is a very high probability that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe, even if it hasn't contacted us, or likely doesn't even know about us), that the Illuminati are real, that there is a New World Order presided over by reptilian aliens, people who believe things like homeopathy and psychics are real, the list goes on. .....
#130
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Re: What was the biggest culture shock when you moved to the USA?
It's not scary. Trouble is, most people who believe weird shit like that have a problem keeping it to themselves, which can be annoying. Annoying ranks higher on the list than scary for me.
#131
Re: What was the biggest culture shock when you moved to the USA?
But then I believe all religion to be a bunch of vindictive crap that it's followers seem incapable of keeping to themselves.
#132
Re: What was the biggest culture shock when you moved to the USA?
It's scary when they decide to teach creationism in schools instead of real science. As for faith healing, thats just crazy talk. If I'm sick I want real medicine.
Not sure about ghosts, there seems to be more spiritualist churches in the UK compared to the US
Probably not much worse than Chinese medicine, eating Tiger claws to cure a cold, or something as ridiculous.
Not sure about ghosts, there seems to be more spiritualist churches in the UK compared to the US
Probably not much worse than Chinese medicine, eating Tiger claws to cure a cold, or something as ridiculous.
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Re: What was the biggest culture shock when you moved to the USA?
I didn't encounter this in the UK. People I knew there seemed to manage to reconcile religious belief with complex thought. They mostly seemed to have thought very deeply about religion, often with much angst, concluded there was no rational basis for it, but decided that they still preferred to believe it was how life worked. Most religious Americans seem to deliberately shy away from thinking about it too hard, as if they're frightened the whole house of cards will come tumbling down and everything they purport to stand for will be revealed as a lie.
#134
Re: What was the biggest culture shock when you moved to the USA?
I had a good old chuckle and a major WTF moment when I took my test. After passing my ridiculously easy test and exiting the building with my shiny new licence in my grubby mitts I witnessed one of the DMV examiners stood by the passenger door and shouting at her driver to let her into the car.
I had seen the driver in question earlier on in the waiting room accompanied by her daughter, I reckon the daughter was in her late seventies!!! I came to the conclusion that the driver had forgotten that she was supposed to be driving an examiner round the course and was probably wondering why some strange woman was hollering at her from the passenger side of the car...
I assume she passed, I think Florida likes giving old scrotes a licence as the really old ones refuse to die by other means and just keep going otherwise...
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Re: What was the biggest culture shock when you moved to the USA?
The way the annoying manifests for me, is that people who have strong supernatural beliefs tend to be really boring thinkers and conversationalists. Because such a large part of their self-identity doesn't stand up to critical analysis, this habit of 'la la la, just won't think about it' spills over into other areas of their life, and they don't develop any sort of rational thinking filter when it comes to politics, current events, gossip about the neighbors - anything, really, where it benefits to switch on a 'yeah, but is that reeeeeally likely?' perspective.
Can't listen to reason, won't listen to reason, and yes, when it spills over into real life it can become detrimental.
I didn't encounter this in the UK. People I knew there seemed to manage to reconcile religious belief with complex thought. They mostly seemed to have thought very deeply about religion, often with much angst, concluded there was no rational basis for it, but decided that they still preferred to believe it was how life worked. Most religious Americans seem to deliberately shy away from thinking about it too hard, as if they're frightened the whole house of cards will come tumbling down and everything they purport to stand for will be revealed as a lie.