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Old Dec 19th 2016, 8:16 pm
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Originally Posted by Hiro11
Agree with this. To me it seems like obvious common sense that a background check should be required to own a firearm. Not sure I agree with this. Worrying about magazine capacity and select fire (automatic weapons) is a bit of a red herring. A low capacity semi automatic pistol like a 1911 is plenty deadly. Magazines can be swapped very quickly, in fact low capacity pistols are common in shooting competitions where speed is a factor. Similarly, a semi automatic or even a bolt action hunting rifle can be shot extremely quickly and are both very powerful weapons. Likewise given the deadliness of any rifle, the definition of an "assault rifle" is extremely vague. Actually, an AR-15's .223 cartridge is much less powerful than a standard .308 hunting cartridge. After all, the Second World War was fought essentially with hunting rifles.
The British infantry were using semi-automatics with 20 round magazines up until the early 90's.

I think that some sort of check should be done on ammo sales. It's crazy that FEDEX can leave 1000 rounds just sitting on my door step, not even requiring a signature.
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Old Dec 19th 2016, 8:28 pm
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Default Re: What was the biggest culture shock when you moved to the USA?

Originally Posted by Hiro11
Agree with this. To me it seems like obvious common sense that a background check should be required to own a firearm. Not sure I agree with this. Worrying about magazine capacity and select fire (automatic weapons) is a bit of a red herring. A low capacity semi automatic pistol like a 1911 is plenty deadly. Magazines can be swapped very quickly, in fact low capacity pistols are common in shooting competitions where speed is a factor. Similarly, a semi automatic or even a bolt action hunting rifle can be shot extremely quickly and are both very powerful weapons. Likewise given the deadliness of any rifle, the definition of an "assault rifle" is extremely vague. Actually, an AR-15's .223 cartridge is much less powerful than a standard .308 hunting cartridge. After all, the Second World War was fought essentially with hunting rifles.
Dyllan Roof used a Glock to kill the nine people in the church in N.C so yes not all shooters use assault weapons.

IMO there's no real solution to stopping mass shootings when it's known that there are upwards of 90 millions firearms in circulation and god knows how many people existing on the border lines of insanity own them.

That said I still believe that military type assault weapons have no place in the hands of civilians
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Default Re: What was the biggest culture shock when you moved to the USA?

Originally Posted by mrken30
The British infantry were using semi-automatics with 20 round magazines up until the early 90's.

I think that some sort of check should be done on ammo sales. It's crazy that FEDEX can leave 1000 rounds just sitting on my door step, not even requiring a signature.
They sound like the NATO standard issue FNs we used while I was in the army in the 1960s 7.62 caliber if I remember right
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Originally Posted by dc koop
They sound like the NATO standard issue FNs we used while I was in the army in the 1960s 7.62 caliber if I remember right
Correct, commonly known as SLRs
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The belgian FN is still doing great service in african countries, but most of the world is standardising on russian kalashnikov concern weapons [current assault hunting and sniper weapons are excellent] or uk based heckler and koch [owned by the govt rof and manufacturing in america, the uk nd elsewhere.]

There are of course good exceptions like the israelis, steyr in austria and a few others. I really wouldnt include the m16, its junk.
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.... or uk based heckler and koch [owned by the govt of and manufacturing in america, the uk and elsewhere.] ....
Huh?
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Originally Posted by uk_grenada
The belgian FN is still doing great service in african countries, but most of the world is standardising on russian kalashnikov concern weapons [current assault hunting and sniper weapons are excellent] or uk based heckler and koch [owned by the govt rof and manufacturing in america, the uk nd elsewhere.]

There are of course good exceptions like the israelis, steyr in austria and a few others. I really wouldnt include the m16, its junk.
I never fired the M-16 but I heard the early ones had a tendency to jam. Some US troops in Nam wanted the VC AKs instead
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Default Re: What was the biggest culture shock when you moved to the USA?

Originally Posted by uk_grenada
The belgian FN is still doing great service in african countries, but most of the world is standardising on russian kalashnikov concern weapons [current assault hunting and sniper weapons are excellent] or uk based heckler and koch [owned by the govt rof and manufacturing in america, the uk nd elsewhere.]

There are of course good exceptions like the israelis, steyr in austria and a few others. I really wouldnt include the m16, its junk.
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I think most things are poorer in quality over here: houses, cars, consumer goods, customer service, banks, airlines... I could go on and on.
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I think most things are poorer in quality over here: houses, cars, consumer goods, customer service, banks, airlines... I could go on and on.
That's a pretty broad statement. As far as houses go where I live they're built to withstand earthquakes so you cannot compare those to houses in the UK which would collapse completely in any sizeable earthquake.

As for cars I never thought Toyotas, Hondas, Mercedes Benz, BMW etc were of poor quality anywhere in the world they're driven and percentage wise combined they outnumber GM and Ford in the US As for Fiat and Renault both popular in Europe I would say they're of poor quality overall

Cant complain about customer service either. I've encountered some sourpusses in Europe who are square pegs in round holes when it comes to serving the public

As for banks and airlines I do not see any difference in service either less or better here or there
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Originally Posted by dc koop
That's a pretty broad statement. As far as houses go where I live they're built to withstand earthquakes so you cannot compare those to houses in the UK which would collapse completely in any sizeable earthquake.

As for cars I never thought Toyotas, Hondas, Mercedes Benz, BMW etc were of poor quality anywhere in the world they're driven and percentage wise combined they outnumber GM and Ford in the US As for Fiat and Renault both popular in Europe I would say they're of poor quality overall

Cant complain about customer service either. I've encountered some sourpusses in Europe who are square pegs in round holes when it comes to serving the public

As for banks and airlines I do not see any difference in service either less or better here or there
I largely agree, but re houses I am inclined to agree with MrKen on certain specifics, such as but not confined to, heating systems, electrical fittings (switches, sockets, GFCIs, etc.), plumbing (taps and valves), roofing, and floor rigidity. The reliability and robustness of these are significantly poorer in the US. I didn't have to replace any of those things in the UK because they had in some general sense "worn out", and yet all are things that have a relatively short life in the US and I have had to replace in the US - except for floors, but I never had a floor sag in the UK such that a door started to rub or stick in its frame.

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Originally Posted by Pulaski
I largely agree, but re houses I am inclined to agree with MrKen on certain specifics, such as but not confined to, heating systems, electrical fittings (switches, sockets, GFCIs, etc.), plumbing (taps and valves), roofing, and floor rigidity. The reliability and robustness of these are significantly poorer in the US. I didn't have to replace any of those things in the UK because they had in some general sense "worn out", and yet all are things that have a relatively short life in the US and I have had to replace in the US - except for floors, but I never had a floor sag in the UK such that a door started to rub or stick in its frame.
Toilet flappers are a bug bear of American society, toilets should be able to go for years with minimal maintenance.
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Originally Posted by mrken30
Toilet flappers are a bug bear of American society, toilets should be able to go for years with minimal maintenance.
They work OK with well water, but rot in 2-3 years if your house is connected to chlorinated mains water.
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Originally Posted by dc koop
They sound like the NATO standard issue FNs we used while I was in the army in the 1960s 7.62 caliber if I remember right
Sure that wasn't the Lee-Enfield .303

In the RAF we weren't given guns. Except on guard duty, then we had a rifle but no bullets.
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In the RAF we weren't given guns. Except on guard duty, then we had a rifle but no bullets.
In the CCF we pretended to have rifles.
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